Baller Bill22 Posted October 15, 2021 Baller Share Posted October 15, 2021 I just finished watching today’s skiing… Incredible talent, amazing and very entertaining! How could anyone not cheer for Dane? And wow, JT had to fight his way in! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Wish Posted October 15, 2021 Baller_ Share Posted October 15, 2021 Courtasy of FB. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller CBR51 Posted October 15, 2021 Baller Share Posted October 15, 2021 Mens slalom super exciting! Great to have Worlds at such a awesome site. Real happy and impressed with Dane in Runoff. But almost as impressed with Joel even though he didn’t make it. He had about a 2 hr wait. Then be last off in runoff and still smoke 39 cold and get 3 @41 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skiinxs Posted October 15, 2021 Baller Share Posted October 15, 2021 Suggestion for TWSBC - Skier name and rope length in a box on screen would be a great enhancement for times when we are unable to have sound on. Not a complaint though, best production of water ski tournaments I have ever seen, and they keep getting better! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller JordanOz Posted October 15, 2021 Baller Share Posted October 15, 2021 They did this for every skier I saw, and updated every shortening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller aupatking Posted October 15, 2021 Baller Share Posted October 15, 2021 Any word on Whitney? That fall was brutal. If she has a concussion, would concussion protocol keep her from competing, if she chose to/were able to? That is, do we have measures in place that allow/disallow skiers with concussions to continue competing? The concussion question is not a Whitney specific question, to be clear (she may not even have one, I don’t know) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ MISkier Posted October 15, 2021 Baller_ Share Posted October 15, 2021 @aupatking, in AWSA, the Chief Safety (with Chief Judge consultation and any override notwithstanding) can stop competition when an unsafe condition exists. This includes preventing a skier from continuing if their participation is a danger to themselves or others. The same applies to the continued participation of an official whose performance may be compromised in a similar manner. I don't know the IWWF rule, but they tend to be quite similar. The worst slalom equipment I own is between my ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller BS74 Posted October 15, 2021 Baller Share Posted October 15, 2021 She was taken to the hospital and I'm sure she was evaluated for a concussion as normal protocol in addition to her eye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members brettmainer Posted October 16, 2021 Members Share Posted October 16, 2021 Are Overall results solely based on the Preliminary Round scores? Or, do overall skiers who make the 12 person cut to the finals in any of three events have a chance to improve their overall score with a better final round performance? Basically, is Woman's Overall now complete, and Men's will be finalized after the conclusion of the Men's Trick event tomorrow morning, or are overall winners only crowned after the finals are over. I am pretty sure the answer to my question above is that overall is based on a single round, so just the prelim scores count. But, what if a skier made the finals cut in all three events and posted a better overall score in "Round 2" of the tournament than they did in Round 1? Does the higher Round 2 score become their overall score for the tournament, but all of the overall skiers who did not qualify for the finals in all 3 events just don't get a second round of overall? Assuming the answer to the above is, "Only the preliminary rounds have anything to do with Overall", it causes me to view some of the preliminary results differently. A slalom specialist may be content to pull up at 3@41 knowing he/she qualified for the finals, but an overall skier has to go for every 1/4 buoy, potentially falling at 3 in the attempt to get to 4. Were Krueger's and Dodd's preliminary jumps shorter than Llewellen and Poland because they took safe (for them) jumps to qualify while Llewellen and Poland went as hard as they could today due to the overall battle? I would assume that Krueger and Dodd, both being "high mileage" jumpers with Dodd recently back from injury, didn't give it everything they had today, preferring not to risk injury two days before the finals. All they had to do was qualify without injury, then go all out on Sunday. Skiers competing in overall, not just jump, don't have that luxury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Bruce_Butterfield Posted October 16, 2021 Baller_ Share Posted October 16, 2021 @brettmainer for the overall skiers the better of prelim or final counts towards the overall score. The rationale is as you suggested - a top skier may only do what is necessary to get to the finals and may be less than he is capable of. Most of these skiers don’t hold back at worlds. There are a plethora of reasons why any given skier didn’t perform “as expected “. If it was easy, they would call it Wakeboarding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted October 16, 2021 Author Administrators Share Posted October 16, 2021 I don't think anybody holds back at worlds. You can speculate strategy but I think you would be wrong. The only super elite skier I know of who might do something like that is Asher. He is known to dislike being last off the dock but that's certainly not a factor at this event. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members brettmainer Posted October 16, 2021 Members Share Posted October 16, 2021 I learn something every day. I disagree with @Horton about holding back. I think there were quite a few skiers who only went for 2@39 (women) or 3@41 (men) rather than risk it to go further. As for jump, I can only surmise. However, why would Ryan Dodd go 100% in the prelims with no overall in question? He might crash, might re-injure, might have to pass. Take the safe (for the world record holder) jump and wait for Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller CBR51 Posted October 16, 2021 Baller Share Posted October 16, 2021 Might be like that in some cases. But I am pretty sure Ryan and Freddie both like to be last off the dock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ral Posted October 16, 2021 Baller Share Posted October 16, 2021 Jumpers might hold back, in particular if they qualify before junp 3. That is often seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller lhoover Posted October 16, 2021 Baller Share Posted October 16, 2021 Bruce, You were holding back! You did not tell us your beautiful daughter was skiing tricks at the Worlds! She looked great, standing up both passes. Did she graduate A&M? What is she doing these days? Congratulations! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller BlueSki Posted October 16, 2021 Baller Share Posted October 16, 2021 Marcus is making highlight films. In case you missed it, he did an excellent job as always. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jjackkrash Posted October 16, 2021 Baller Share Posted October 16, 2021 Jacinta Carroll. Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Stevie Boy Posted October 16, 2021 Baller Share Posted October 16, 2021 Travers, what a Superb site, the level of skiing is out of this world, the bar is so high, Good Luck to everybody in the Finals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Bruce_Butterfield Posted October 16, 2021 Baller_ Share Posted October 16, 2021 @lhoover thanks! She did great and just missed finals. Really great for first worlds. She graduated in august and starts her real job in 2 weeks so timing worked perfectly to train for worlds. If it was easy, they would call it Wakeboarding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller klindy Posted October 16, 2021 Baller Share Posted October 16, 2021 @Bruce_Butterfield she did ski fantastic! You guys have been working hard! So awesome to see her compete at Worlds when I can remember her barely getting started skiing! Tell her to enjoy getting the career in motion! Exciting times, milestone events!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Stevie Boy Posted October 16, 2021 Baller Share Posted October 16, 2021 Pigozzi Awsome Edge Change ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Stevie Boy Posted October 16, 2021 Baller Share Posted October 16, 2021 The Best Show Ever ! Amazing quality work from TWBC, as for the competitors, I watched in Awe, the standard was beyond amazing, surely the run off,s make fabulous viewing even for Joe Public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Andre Posted October 16, 2021 Baller Share Posted October 16, 2021 Nate is in another class.Great skiing by TGas and Will. Dane will win before long! My ski finish in 16.95 but my ass is out of tolerance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Anderson Posted October 16, 2021 Baller Share Posted October 16, 2021 So impressed with the broadcast. Great job! Exciting finals - 3rd place runofff was awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ lpskier Posted October 17, 2021 Baller_ Share Posted October 17, 2021 Big stink about the driving in Series 3 men’s slalom qualifier. Lpskier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ lpskier Posted October 17, 2021 Baller_ Share Posted October 17, 2021 Congratulations Brie Carter on a stellar sixth place finish! @coach3 Lpskier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ lpskier Posted October 17, 2021 Baller_ Share Posted October 17, 2021 Team New York Lpskier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller bikesrus Posted October 17, 2021 Baller Share Posted October 17, 2021 @lpskier looks like some of the LaPoints Ski Lake crew enjoying some amazing skiing today. Even Riley lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller slow Posted October 17, 2021 Baller Share Posted October 17, 2021 Amazing margin of victory for Nate in the finals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MitchellM Posted October 17, 2021 Baller Share Posted October 17, 2021 This was my first day ever at a pro tournament. Took my oldest daughter. What a blast! The skiing was great and the tension was palpable during that men's runoff for third. I was sitting right across from where that first photo from @lpskier was taken. Brie skied great. We coincidentally sat at the cutout in the middle of the course. Most of the skiers made their way out right in front of us. Extra entertaining to see them all meet their friends and families as they exited. Regina was emotional. What an amazing story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller LeonL Posted October 17, 2021 Baller Share Posted October 17, 2021 @lpskier, since you broached the subject, can you elaborate on the "stink"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ lpskier Posted October 17, 2021 Baller_ Share Posted October 17, 2021 Without going into great detail, the skiers in Men’s Series 3 were disappointed to have a different driver than Series 1 and 2. The rules require that 1 and 2 have the same driver, but (probably) because the event was in the USA, the quality of the Series 3 field was particularly high. Series 3 skiers wanted a level playing field. Then (at least some of) the Series 3 skiers thought they got a significantly inferior pull. This may be borne out by the fact that (as I recall) no Series 3 skier made it to the final. I saw what I thought to be a lot of loose line in Series 3 and commented to a friend in the moment that a skier I know well just didn’t look right during his set. Moreover, before the event the athlete representatives requested that Men’s Series 3 get the same driver and we’re turned down. So there are folks that skied Series 3 that think they weren’t treated fairly. So this adds up to a stink. All that said, Worlds has been a great success. Lots of people at the lake yesterday and as you probably saw on the webcast, a lot of very exciting skiing. I’ll be talking about Dane Mechler’s run off on Thursday for quite some time, as I will of Nate’s domineering win and the huge run off for bronze. No one missed a 39 off the dock! And Dorien Llewellyn on the ramp. My money is on him today to win the jump. Watch the height that kid gets off the ramp. Lpskier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jeidmann Posted October 17, 2021 Baller Share Posted October 17, 2021 Anyone know the list or where I can find the list of the male skiers who've run 41 off in a tourney? Are we up to 14 now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Broussard Posted October 17, 2021 Baller Share Posted October 17, 2021 @jeidmann Jeff Rodgers - 1997 Andy Mapple - 1998 Ben Favret - 2002 - Boat Path Issue Jamie Beauchesne - 2003 Chris Parrish - 2005 Will Asher - 2008 *Thomas Degasperi - 2009 Nate Smith - 2010 Jon Travers - 2012 Freddie Winter - 2014 Corey Vaughn - 2015 Sachs Descuns - 2016 Robert Pigozzi - 2018 Brian Detrick - 2021 *Dane Mechler - 2021 * In a runoff. Does not count as an official score . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller 75Tique Posted October 17, 2021 Baller Share Posted October 17, 2021 What a great event. TWBC has done an amazing job of bringing skiing to us viewers. Kudos to them. The skiing was great. So motivating for us kind of rookie weekend warrior types. Inspired me to go out friday evening and tie my PB. Season is winding down here, but hoping to get out a couple more times this year. The water ski community can be very proud of this event. Congrats to all skiers, especially WMR who came back to make an appearance in the finals after that nasty crash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jcamp Posted October 17, 2021 Baller Share Posted October 17, 2021 A lot of people were complaining about the IWWF license fee when it was first introduced, but I for one am happy to have paid that fee this year. That fee - and the new funding strategy for Worlds that it created - is why this year's event was held on a world-class site and not alongside shipping barges like in past years. It's great for the sport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller kc Posted October 17, 2021 Baller Share Posted October 17, 2021 @jcamp Agree! $25 is an incredible value for what I’ve witnessed through the webcast the past six days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted October 17, 2021 Author Administrators Share Posted October 17, 2021 @jcamp I think it's a little optimistic to connect the $25 fee to having worlds at Jack's. Worlds is a cash cow for international. They keep all of the entry fees. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller DaveD Posted October 17, 2021 Baller Share Posted October 17, 2021 Haven't watched all of the tournament yet but was able to catch both Carl Roberge and Kristy Overton's interviews during yesterday's finals. Great to see them again. Did Sammy get interviewed too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller kc Posted October 17, 2021 Baller Share Posted October 17, 2021 @Horton But I believe IWWF isn’t requiring the host to pony up $100k like in the past, which made it prohibitive for most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted October 17, 2021 Author Administrators Share Posted October 17, 2021 @kc Yes in the past it was inexplicably stupid. no question. The $25 licenses did not generate $100,000. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller kc Posted October 17, 2021 Baller Share Posted October 17, 2021 @Horton Clearly the $25 skier license fee isn’t generating that much, but guess it’s part of the new formula for funding. Whatever is behind it, happy to see worlds at a world class, (and safe) venue! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MitchellM Posted October 17, 2021 Baller Share Posted October 17, 2021 I was shocked that there was no entry fee for spectators. What other sport can you go to a world class event like this and get in for free? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jjackkrash Posted October 17, 2021 Baller Share Posted October 17, 2021 Jump finals was the bomb. And the Joel and Dorien show. Wow. Fantastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller BS74 Posted October 17, 2021 Baller Share Posted October 17, 2021 Congrats to Freddie Kruger also, 3rd place ,a half meter out of 2nd! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MitchellM Posted October 17, 2021 Baller Share Posted October 17, 2021 Great day for some spectator photos! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MDB1056 Posted October 17, 2021 Baller Share Posted October 17, 2021 @MitchellM - nice job! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MitchellM Posted October 17, 2021 Baller Share Posted October 17, 2021 Just missed two ball on his last pass! Still a happy world champion!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller 75Tique Posted October 17, 2021 Baller Share Posted October 17, 2021 Yeah, I was going to say, he didn’t look too terribly disappointed at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jjackkrash Posted October 17, 2021 Baller Share Posted October 17, 2021 Five titles in a row. Jacinta Carroll is an animal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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