Thanks for your input Mr. Horton! I know one degree is a small tweak, but when you ski on the A-1 you'll notice how sensitive the ski is to adustments! I even think it's more sensitive than my 9700 was. I tried Greg's settings that I saw on your site, with only 5 thou less in length and 5 thou less depth, and 8 degrees. it wasn't even close to the way the ski feels stock, I couldn't turn it, and much less stable. maybe I'm on the pipe, but that's what I felt! I also live in the NW, and ski in water around 60-70 half of the year, so I have always liked a wing. I start out @ 22/ 34 then go to 22/ 36, maxing out @ 28'. so what can I do to have the tip stay down on the approach, with less wing? I was thinking more lenght or less DFT? Thanks! /vanillaforum/js/tinymce/jscripts/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-cool.gif