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37 minutes ago, Horton said:

@jpwhit I have never seen a zero off though get slow times because of power issues. I'm sure it's happened in some crazy extreme example but a 5.7 200 will get good times up and down the lake.

The 5.7 doesn't  cut it with a 36mph  shortline skier in most of Colorado (at lowest around 5,000') in a 200 or '14+ ProStar. An extreme example. It will "work" on a few of the longer/lower-elevation lakes.

You need a higher end rope to freeski -43. Otherwise, it seems you're just poking the wasp nest.

3 hours ago, Mastercrafter said:

The 5.7 in the 1991 felt a bit stronger than my 2015 Prostar with the same engine. There’s 800lbs difference in the boats. 

And the prostar is pushing more water.

@DanoAmerican Skier, MB Boss (?)

Not sure pp can play with dbw ...

@ghutchAppareny just science 😉

Oh, also @Scott Russell, the 5.7 liter gt40  in the '97 Nautique will pull a 36 mph skier at 6,400'. The 5.7 L engine in a 2014+ prostar or Nautique 200 won't. 

@Scott RussellThe very first PP was speed based, it was terrible. Then came rpm based, the driver had to add rpm for crew weight, the anticipated pull of the skier, and wind (and current if in a river). It was a big guessing game and some skiers loved it because they could "pull it down" and get a slow but in tolerance time. There were magnets under buoys for the timing. If you didn't pull, it would go really fast. It came in hot at the gate.

Then came PP Stargazer: was "GPS based" it came in hot at the gate too, then changed speed at the 3 ball (heinous and ridiculous )

apparently with lots of inputs, one can get stargazer to work pretty well, and I guess Z-box is close to Zero Off.

The limiting factor is response time via a throttle cable.

ZO is always tbw with accelerometers. No inputs from the driver except for the skier's choice of pull type and speed. If you select 34 mph and just stand there, it goes 34 mph. If you pull really hard, it pulls back. It tries to get a perfect time. 
 

New boats are much  wider and heavier. New engines are really strong, they don't need to be at their peak torque curve, I don't think, the manufacturers prop them accordingly. ZO needs to know your engine size and prop. I think our 6.2 L 2020 prostar goes maybe 40 mph at 6,400' above sea level. Not sure what the rpm's are at 36 mph, but higher than older engines. 
 

I have a '97 Nautique with pp (not Stargazer) that I still love to freeski behind. No way would I run it in the course. I’m not sure anyone that skis tournaments would choose to train behind a pp boat if they have a choice.

49 minutes ago, BraceMaker said:

Pelting.

👏Thank You @BraceMaker!🤕

@Scott RussellWell, the 91-94 prostar did have  a great wake, but also a tremendous amount of "spray " ( I’m looking for a word that describes golfball-sized spray)

The bubble butt ski nautique (97-99?) was great with both spray and  wake. Certainly someone will tell you how awesome a Malibu was....

1 hour ago, Scott Russell said:

One note I should mention to anyone reading this thread that I should have mentioned earlier. The ONLY boats I'm considering for this project are older Ski Nautiques and Master Craft Pro Stars. MAYBE a Malibu if I could find just the right one, but more than likely either Nautique or MC. 

If you want a small wake and no spray, there is only one old boat out there.

4 hours ago, Horton said:

@Jody_Seal I don't know maybe I'm using the wrong terminology. when I was a kid whenever we got a new boat the first thing we did was remove a little c clip off of a post on the side of the carburetor. then we would slide the connected arm off that post. the result was the secondaries wouldn't kick in slalom. we would of course reconnect it for a jump. My memory is clear. my description may suck.

@HortonI think you're right. Jump and 36 SL needed the secondaries. (At least in Colorado) the secondaries would kick in and out at 34mph SL.

Why is a 9 year old in a Record tournament?

10 hours ago, Slalom.Steve said:

..still so mad about S-Lines lol. And it seems @Wish's handle in question may actually be a Masterline, by process of elimination.

Huh?

15 years. It's a Z-Line, oops, MasterLine. I could probably sell it for more than I bought it for. 

@Bill22 Did he complain about it?

I don't think that's uncommon 

Yes, our shoreline is 5:1 (?) The rollers settle in the time it takes to change over (a couple minutes)

I've been working on this, absolutely amazing. My gates are money and I’m wide and early. When I get my octane dialed in, I’m running back to back 41s.

Classic. What the...?

We alternate between surfing and slalom all the time at kodiakskilake, a classic SL lake with islands, no issues. The buoy bungees do get worked after a while, we need to keep our eye on heights

@skialex, @Stevie Boy

thats my point. Enjoy your ski time!

Probably zero pros. Why is yours in your chest...?

4 hours ago, eyepeeler said:

Tourney PB and practice PB should be the same unless you are cheating in practice.  If your driver is bumping the buoys and running slow you'll run 39 every time in practice.

What if my tournament pb is better than my practice pb , wise @eyepeeler?

22 hours ago, Kswap said:

Upon inspection it is not the original strut