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Safety is critical. I switched to edge front and a large rear Venom boot coming from double Animals. I don't ski as well, but the ease of entry and safety are for the better.

Front boot released. I guess the moral is, check your equipment early and often.

All of the above, plus check your equipment before you ski and survey the ski area with binoculars for any impediments.

Hmm, well if you are going to enter horses in the discussion, then I'm going either Mother Nature or Father Time. Both undefeated and untied. Where as Secretariat lost a couple of times. I don't know I think probably there is some downhill snow skier who should be considered as World class downhill is the toughest thing to do in the world of sports being that you are on the edge of death. No, hitting major league pitching is not the toughest thing to do in sport.

Yes, Geoff Carrington not Sammy. They do look somewhat like members of a "syndicate" to me. Jus sayin' maybe at bore the idea for the branding.

@Horton While they may not have been directly referred to as "syndicate" and were umm projected as the good guys. I am merely saying this may have been the beginning of the syndicate concept. Sir, may I have another

Oh wise @Horton of the left coast. I know/knew that, however often times within the world of marketing and branding things are umm let's say usurped. You agree? O by the way thank you thank you thank you very much for my Panda. I will wear it proudly.

Back in the day Andy Mapple, the two Lapoint brothers, Camille & Sammy Duvall were dressed to look like mobsters, but were carrying skis instead of machine guns. This may have been the origin of the branding.

If it helps I purchased an overlay carpet that I can pull out easily if it gets damp. Give Fogarty Marine a call and I'm sure they could help.

Alpha from the H2OProshop

I have a 66 2019. If you're interested.

@lpskier I agree and so I think if someone wants to turn and burn it should be at a premium. That is sort of my point. Additionally, if someone has a late round assignment then they should feel obligated to that assignment. I also concur that turn and burn probably doesn't result in a high score, but I have absolutely no data to base that on.

I will suggest one more example to try to get across my idea of revenue added at no additional cost. Consider the turn and burn concept. I don't think it adds any dollar cost to a tournament. So is it logistically too difficult to allow some people to turn and burn and in return those people would be charged a premium. Do I want to do it? No, I have all the time in the world and really enjoy tournament days and talking to people and helping out in whatever way I can. But there might come a time when I would have other obligations that make it impossible for me to get two rounds under the normal timeframe. Do I expect tournament organizers to let me turn and burn for $0? No I would expect to pay an additional fee to inconvenience them. So, that's the concept. Is it going to bother me to have tournament fees raised? No, I'm probably still going to go and enjoy the people and the places. I'm just trying to think of value added at no cost to anyone which might increase revenue. Sorry if it is bothering anyone.

@dave2ball I have no problem with the idea of helping the promo person absorb costs. I also have no problem skiing behind older boats. I was merely looking for ways to provide added benefit at no cost that people might like. Sorry if I offended you.

The video was only meant as an example, but the overall idea is that at some point everyone votes with their dollars. Many would not see the new Ski Nautique as a benefit and would in fact far prefer a 200 with appropriate ZO not just skiers but drivers too. As another example; consider the current ski Regionals to ski Nationals rule. What if instead of having to actually ski the Regionals you only had to pay the fee to ski Regionals to ski Nationals. Would this save money/reduce costs/make the event impossible to hold or some combination. Anyway as expenses continue to grow the experience needs to grow too.

This thought precipitated out of the promo boat topic, but I'm not sure it's on topic (and I couldn't post in there anyway) so I started a new discussion. I think if you are going to charge people more money,that is fine. People can decide if they want to pay that money or find a way around it or whatever they want to do. Now for me, if you are going to charge me more money I think you have to provide a better product, experience or somehow enhance what it is you are charging more money for. In short you have to justify it (to me) So, what would I pay more money for at a tournament? Here is an idea. I would like video from the boat of any of my passes. I think this would be pretty simple to obtain and be almost $0 to the tournament folks, but I would be willing to pay, hmmmm, $10 per round. Would a lot of people want this or be willing pay this? I'm not sure. Maybe they wouldn't, but maybe there are folks who would. Or maybe there are low cost/no cost ideas that would enhance the tournament experience that would generate $ that could then be passed to whomever to keep this sport viable.

Yes I do listen/watch and I would like to keep up with the elite skiers in the sport. Additionally, some time ago you were doing interviews with people from the sport and I very much enjoyed those. Given a choice between the two, I prefer the latter.

@adkh2oskier I'm there now. You, LPSkier and moi. Oh, and when you are resting your eyes, friends come over to make sure you're still breathing, you might be in Men's 6!

On the forebody of the 2017 Vapor pro build there is a ridge. What is the purpose of this ridge?

I agree completely John. But some skiers and I suppose some skis tend to work better, when they smear more in the turn.

At shorter line lengths (e.g. 12m and shorter) do you want your ski to smear? Asking for a friend.

Even though it was not a great Summer for weather, these people are fantastic I can't wait for next year, but I'm dreading our captains off season training regiment(read, I'm not sure I can drink that much Switchback. #nleuth)

Who is skiing in the BigDawg finals?

I thought Chet won a run off and Mike Morgan won in the last year of Chucks eligibility. So, Chuck won 8 of 10, but no doubt he is the ultimate bigdawg. Plus he use to set his fin with his thumb!

@jhughes Thanks for the feedback. The cap was pretty much destroyed. I have about a third in one piece. The remainder is small fragments that were cleaned up.