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Looky there--you can option it to 4500 lbs and you would be golden. @shell we will have to race trailer in tow with our Benz GL63 AMG(used to have the ML now we have the big 3 row hot-rod)--what is the Cayenne rated for? The AMG is 7500

Good point, even a 196 plus trailer/gear is likely over the 3500 tow rating of the Bronco--maybe closer to 4K lbs. I saw on planet nautique a guy with a 196 and a tandem trailer, gased/gear ready to go to lake was 4000 on a truck scale. Maybe not your cup of tea but a Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT is fun to drive, looks bad ass and can tow 7200 lbs.

You will be fine. I've towed with vehicles far less capable--when I was growing up we simply added tow hitches to cars. Vehicles today are light years better equipped to do so.

@Jody_Seal and @The_MS write the truth on this one. If 196 get a closed bow the open bow is rather useless it's so small. If you need an open bow, especially if you ski short--get the 206 that was Nautiques promo boat when it came out for tourneys. Anything at 36 mph 22 and shorter and 34 mph 28 off and shorter is great. Nice space, Nautique build quality. Of course there is also the 'Bu Sunsetter Lxi for that purpose, or a Response Lxi.

@dirt cool @ForrestGump yes horton is a ding dong @The_MS banable is not a word, "soup nazi" is two words, and "no soup for you" is four words. I hate it when I get denied soup, so I try to be nice to the guy behind the counter : ) All good. Thread was started about Chad--can't imagine having done his job in the trenches--really none of us could.

@ForrestGump as long as we don't throw politics or religion into places they don't belong--it's very likely we can all get along great. Once someone does, it is very hard not counter (if that is how one feels) and then it can become "game on". I'm sure @horton doesn't want to police every little thing--how about we just keep that stuff off the board--thinly veiled or otherwise. It's a much better way for us to all get along and talk skiing. However if @horton tells someone to simply cool it that goes better than s'one with an opposing viewpoint saying "hey wait a minute"...and expressing their viewpoint in contrast--again now it's "game on" and it's an argument. I know of some skiers who no longer participate on the forum due to their perception of political overtones.

Not cool. Integrity matters seems like a great boat I guess he still owns it move on.

Lots and lots of 32 off

@MISkier the wake shaper is kind of a game changer there.

I had a shaker this looks way better. Sure I could put the shaker down in a corner and get the last drop or I could just dump in the little bit that remains after walking away and doing something else while the can empties itself. So cool.

This looks like the bomb. So simple--love it.

Buy it. Even if the bow is not useful in motion, if you are at anchor or floating you will use it. It's also easier to wipe down after use if you are on a boat lift to climb in the front and wipe. If on a trailer that is no advantage. Few boats are as nimble and throw a wake like that one. You can add a bimini, could add a wedge if it doesn't have one for wake boarding--probably can surf it with wedge and some ballast bags, you could add a tower and have place for boards/skis off the floor with an integrated bimini. All sorts of options. Sounds like a fantastic buy no matter how you choose to use it but think big.

Some of the other stuff mentioned ie) spare impeller/zip ties/dive mask/athletic tape/band aids and a tool box are not in my bag--combo of glove compartment and under the passenger seat along with a few spare buoys and lines, a spare ski rope.

Looks like he kept a razor, shave cream, some de-odorant in there 🙂 I had no separate bag just the pockets of my ski bag for binding screws, screw driver, allen, set of wing angles, extra palm pads. Will be curious to hear about the "unbagging" of the GOAT's bag.

@uwskier nice spot on that GPS puck. Yes this one the monsoon which is better than the comparator I found on SIA. Sure a Lxi with a walk through would be desirable--but nice hulls in mint condition with the right features and a good price don't come along every day.

Comparison--also an excellent example: https://www.ski-it-again.com/php/skiitagain.php?endless=summer&topic=Search&category=Boat_3Event&postid=67542

Hey there I help people (friends/relatives) source used cars and boats. My goal is to find well-depreciated perfection on the used market. Look and performs like new but steep discount against new and now depreciating slowly. If price is at all reasonable you buy that value. If you don't like it in a year sell it, but that's a great ski hull, great barefooting hull, handles great. That's a real buy. Otherwise if you don't want to buy it and he wants to sell it outright let me know I would have an interested party. @bananaron care to chime in?

Dude!

@03RLXi that's true I came up skiing buoys behind outboard barefoot boats. I was thru 36 mph 28 off before I ever saw an inboard so never dealt with the inboard low speed 22 off bump. at 28 off longer the wakes favored the outboard (but tracking did not). At 28 and shorter it was all inboard.

Go to 28 off and have fun. 22 is the worst line length for wake.

Second item slalom record 1@10.25 Kristi Overton

Beautiful. Not sure what to do with that tho--need to pop some revenue. Not much land around it to make to develop homes. There are private airport residential communities and in my experience lots of slalom skiers are pilots. Niche but could try to do a few nice homes and sell to pilot/skiers. I'm a pilot and a skier--wow ski all you want, pull the plane from the garage and take off to anywhere. That would be livin' the life.

@ETskier somewhere on the forum archives is a better explanation from @Bruce_Butterfield --his iconic handle control post. Mine was more of a relation of how our dad unknowingly made us better prepared to ski balls and the advice is still relevant today--kinda cool. It got us thru 28/36 quickly--after that had to figure out that the dance needed less applied power. Both Jim and I tourney scores in 39, for Jim in practice a magical day right through 41. Parrish coached us(at the time WR holder) on taking our energy outbound and initially the movement of our handle out bound in direction of travel producing a little counter. Not sure where all of this lies right now in current theory--but my most productive lesson ever was @CParrish43. Both the handle bit and easing off the idea that more angle was always better--I was taking too much and holding it just due to power limiting my ability off the second wash to do the right things.

Sorry wow the typos on voice text you guys had to think I was into IPA I was still at work. Fixed it up.

So I grew up free skiing with the advice of my dad who is 45 years old when I was born, my two brothers Joe and Jim. Joe 10 years older than me and Jim nine years older than me— well Jim was kind of yelling at me but called it coaching🤪 My brothers taught me fierce competitiveness and drive. Another lesson they drilled into my head was to lead with my rope— which basically meant lead with your handle. We didn’t even release the handle back then, because we knew nothing about buoys. The idea was as you came off the second wake and we’re heading out bound. Your hands moved from the leverage position of your hip to more forward pointing shorebound briefly but then transitioning smoothly to forward down the boat path parallel to it, and then towards the back of the boat and then the wake. You then pivot in at the turn and the tight rope comes to your hip as u prepare to graze the wake with your shoulder and “stop the boat”. If you have ever wondered why we pulled so hard now you know. We all took the boys skiing pretty quickly making our first passes at 32/15, 34/15 with two hands on the handle. When we started releasing, we made more progress quickly—so when I was thru 28/36. The idea was the same. Off the second wake my handle goes towards shore then down the boat path then back of the boat then wake as I pivot and the handle lands in my hip pocket. Zoom! The difficulty was we still had that part about trying to hit your shoulder at the wake and stopping the boat. In some ways kinda visionary from the old man we were taught to follow the path of the handle in order to avoid slack and give it hell behind the boat. Lots of ropes broke at the wake, we got some coaching (Parrish—I love your intensity, but you don’t have to be 90° to the boat at all times). We subsequently did our best to pull lighter especially zero off got into play with mixed success, especially in a scramble. Bottom line in some ways we certainly owed our course scores to the old man. The key to coaching us was to back off. Often times I have to coach early skiers to give it hell.