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A while ago in Georgia. Provided much fodder for discussion at the time of the trial.

that is a diamond but thats a 23 footer. Big difference in wakes.

It's big. if you're looking for a skiable vdrive look for an 01-04 malibu sunscape/wakesetter 21 (LSV) with the diamond hull or any VTX. Much better ski wakes.

Gary Storey of Storey construction would know. I've never skied there but have been in the boat long ago. also try Allison Poulsen

So what you're essentially proposing, again if I'm understanding, is the creation of more but smaller regions, with the benefit being that it makes, in theory, all regional tourneys drivable and doesn't require skier-dense states to leave their states? Just for fun of the discussion, what do you do with the problem that not all divisions/events have full fields as it is now? Doesn't regionals placement get watered down?

So keep regional participation requirement for all but the most skier-dense states? Florida obviously has its own state titles already. If I'm understanding correctly you're proposing FL skiers (and CA, TX, maybe a couple others) check the box of regional participation (for purposes of nationals qualification) but everyone else needs to go to a regionals? I'm trying to follow how redrawing regional maps eases the travel burdens for anyone not in skier-dense states? I ask that with an open mind.

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YEs and that's what I recalled though didn't participate in it, but very aware how it works now. So in your opinion, make the "auto qualifying" scores lower to qualify for nationals, to allow more to skip regionals?

Can you describe distinction between "performance standards" and usage of current rankings lists? Was that an objective score that didn't fluctuate year over year as depending on the scores set by the others in one's division?

@horton, out of true interest, can you offer a history lesson as to when this current structure started and what preceded it? I'll hazard a guess that nationals qualification was totally (or almost) score based, and that regionals were dying?

I'd recommend a malibu sunsetter lxi over both by far, that said, the 205's wakes are pretty nice but spray can be an issue. Would not recommend a 206 (if slalom is the sole purpose). It becomes way too complicated to weigh other considerations. I happen to prefer 350s over 351s, others don't. Rest is a matter of preference...except that the lxi (99-04) was probably the gold standard by which all walk through open bow ski boats should be measured. I've not owned a 206, have owned a 205 (for a very short while) and I've had 2 sunsetter lxis. The skiability out of the lxi, coupled with its space, and wedge for anything else, puts it in a league of its own.

I'm pretty sure Jon Travers is available for this (probably not any time soon though, lol). I second the floater

like what? a 20k 20 year old design (that is still sought after) in better condition that that boat will be a tall order IMO.

I'm not familiar with a recent example of someone foregoing a record attempt in the finals, whether they secured the win already, or not. I'd agree might not happen in earlier rounds but I can't think of a time someone has skied to the dock as opposed to take a crack at it? Granted, it's usually Nate and as I understand it he's not tied to a Boat Co., but still.

ski dad, you think a sslxi in what appears to be 7-8/10 with less than 800 hours and a tower a tad "high" at 21,500? Second cheapest in the country that I've seen...and has a tower. Please share others!

ad aged pretty well:

I don't think you have anything to worry about mechanically. Notably, there is no rust residue seeping from the gasket between the risers and exhaust manifolds. Had that been present, the gasket is compromised and while not a big deal necessarily in and of itself, the fact that there is no residue means it was either addressed promptly, or the integrity of the exhaust/water jackets are in tact. The gauge cracking is typical of that era, eventually. Those gauges are at times hard to come by and spendy, but perfect pass would fix one of them. The dash shows minor sunburn. I note seperation of the vinyl at the seams in the rear. Not terrible yet, but should be on your radar. Notably, the trunk vinyl has been replaced. For a 22 year old Florida boat, not uncommon, but it was not likely a garaged boat. I am somewhat concerned by the port carpet near the hull. That "pull" up could be indicative of it "sinking" on the trailer/lift. In other words, bilge filled with water with the plug in. Slight waterline at bottom of observer seat "could" confirm the same. Alternator is also particularly pitted, suggestive of storage with the clamshell closed, or that it "sunk" on the trailer. Although, there is evidence of usage of a "BIMP ring" (those in central florida will know the reference), which is good. That said, that's a smoking price for what is a fantastic boat. At absolute worst, a new 350 costs less than $5,000 last time I needed one. Still a great price.

Then have them do it! Post the link and you'll get plenty of feedback on it here. is it the 06 response lxi or the sunsetter lxi?

Lake Placid Marine is a Malibu dealer. 1) I'd guess they know the owner and can vouch for him if they're inclined or 2) seller can bring there. Not the time of year for their shop to get sidetracked with an inspection I wouldn't think, but could no doubt be done. Listing of boat? Tons of feedback available from people here based on the year, model, condition, etc. If it's an "older" monsoon 350 I wouldn't even bother with a compression check. If the rest of the boat looks good the engine was taken care of too. If it's running now, it'll continue to run for you most likely. Most catastrophic engine failures are due to an acute failure (impeller/overheat/winterization etc). I've bought several Malibus sight unseen. Never worried about the mechanicals and they've all run great.

I still have T shirts and trophies from Bill from 25 years ago when it was getting off the ground. "Gravel Tour" brings back some memories!

true...forgot about that. I'm not crazy in recalling that Bill was a part of it when built, though, right?

Does this mean OWC now MC, too?

Same engine, same symptom here. Crank position sensor did the trick. '08 excalibur

It's fine to get it compounded up and then maintain once every couple weeks with 303 or a spray wax to keep it easy. However, there is nothing impractical about using one of Skip's waterline covers even if you're in and out frequently. You can literally put it on in 1 minute.

If it's all sized correctly I don't understand the concern? There's cable lifts in use that pick up WAY WAY more weight than a prostar and boards. Am I misunderstanding your concern? I've got a buddy who lifts his 40 foot Yellowfin using a cable lift...thats pushing 20,000 #s rigged!