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I have a Denali C75 for sale, size large LFF Basically mint, seen about 30 sets. Will part with it for 2200 Cad

Download the youtube app, make an account and upload the video its actually pretty straight forward. Without video its hard to say for sure. 28 and 32 ski very similarly, so if your 28 is feeling automatic you should have no trouble figuring out 32. How long have you been running 28? How do you structure your sets in training? (starting line/speed when you cut the line etc.)

@Chad_Scott Thanks for the insight, I talked with Malibu and i think that is going to help, the person i am dealing with is very receptive to our issue and sounds like he genuinely feels our concerns. They are getting in touch with PCM and the dealer which will hopefully get some solutions. Ive had enough reports now from others to personally believe this is a known issue with the 6L PCM. I was pretty bummed to find out the dealer didn't look into the issue originally and after three weeks of being down they hadn't contacted Malibu at all, especially since PCM hadn't been returning their calls according to them. There were engine codes showing misfires from when we originally took delivery and they have now found some kinked hosing that could have been the cause of the overheating. Things that could have been found and solved the first times we alerted the dealer and when it was at the shop. The tech was great and very helpful, tech believes that the misfiring is the original sign of the issue even though at the time we weren't noticing power loss. The manager(who i think is an owner)... not so much. After purchasing a boat from this dealer every year for a long time now I cant believe the attitude I received. I tend to give everyone the benefit of the doubt, so I'm going to stay positive that they will get this sorted out quickly now that Malibu is involved. I'm trying to be very careful as I personally just took up the mantle on this issue so it is only the second time i have been directly in contact with the dealer, i don't want to rush to any conclusions based on second hand knowledge/frustrations.

@LeonL you could be right, i only mentioned it seemed to be a known problem as i was warned about this last fall in regards to the 2018's and the new 2019's. I have had 2 other reports now one from regionals and one from Nat's regarding Malibu issues but nothing that is concrete that we could work off of. You are right its very possible that the original issue going unaddressed has caused further damage (thats our suspicion now) . If it turns out to be the case then this is straight dealer neglect as we raised this issue multiple times from the first day with the response being that there were no fault codes in the computer so it must be nothing :( @buechsr the overheating issue was defined in my original post. Boat would run totally fine for multiple passes. Upon idling to pick up the next skier the temp would start climbing up, break past 200 degrees and then show the engine overheat warning and go into limp mode. Again this didn't happen every time, but the check engine light would come on regardless of it overheating or not. @jhughes im super happy for you, and i know there are other people without issue. We do love skiing behind the boat when it was working. Im going to be calling Malibu today, will give you all an update afterwards.

@Zman that's the old screen, we do not have that on the 2019 txi, I'll see if we can get that info on our version.

@pmski i believe the boat has about 200 hours on it now, the overheating issue was from the first day, and the misfiring was at about 200 hours. @Andre yeah i think as was previously suggested we are going to need the diagnosis cable/software. Others have stated the trouble codes should display if the are active or inactive, so we definitely are going to need to see for ourselves. @DW thanks for the insight!

@Rednucleus unfortunately no, they did offer us a boat at one point but it was an older one without zero off or PP. We declined and a member loaned their boat to the club to get us skiing. Definitely not ideal. @jpwhit that does sound like what was happening so I'll add it to the list of things to check. @Andre cant say if it's different from the nautique version. I'd prefer not to share the dealers name yet, I dont want to put them on blast before we sort it out. Looks like I'll be giving malibu a call, I'll post an update as this unfolds. Thanks for all the input everyone!

@RAWSki thanks for the insight @Dacon62 thanks good idea.

@teammalibu if that particular issue persists after the more serious/new one is sorted out we will take a look for sure.

@"Pat M" probably the next course of action. I'll give this a day to get feedback and then go direct.

Yeah that's the thing if the codes active and inactive are visible then I can only assume our dealer is not helping our situation. Again, I'm hoping to find others that have had this issue or similar with this particular boat/engine. As I said this is something that was described to me last year as an issue with these boats, so I'm hoping someone has been successful in sorting it out.

@oldjeep true and I totally get what you are saying. We have the standard screen setup, I dont believe it shows anything other than "service engine" or similar. I could be wrong as I'm not in front of it right now. But by the same logic what's the point in buying a new boat under warranty if the manufacturer and dealer cant fix it? (I see the irony, as that's why I'm here) That's part of why I'm asking the specific question, if the boat comes up and says "service engine" or engine fault (I cant remember the exact terminology) then when it is taken into the dealer they should be able to see what that was when its hooked up to a computer correct? As according to the dealer it has not registered any fault codes. It seems very odd to us that there would be no codes when the engine fault light is on all day. Dont get me wrong though the sentiment is growing, and the feeling is that our dealer isnt working with us and at the end of the day if we need to buy our own diagnostic tools we will. The most important thing is to have our club members skiing. If we lose out on a large portion of the season because our brand new boat wont run it could really impact our ability to operate.

@oldjeep yeah and it very well could be. Unfortunately this has progressed beyond just that issue. Actually when we got the boat back (after the misfiring) it didnt behave the same so it's hard to say if that issue still lingers or if it is gone. The new issue where it just makes very little power prevents us from even skiing.

@pmski yes but I'm not sure what you mean. Exhaust note changes with the boat rpm. @oldjeep at the point it's hard for me to say as it is with the dealer and they have claimed to have gone over everything. When we had the problem originally(the overheating limp mode issue) yes we checked the strainer/impeller oddly the boat would be fine if we kept it running with no break between skiers. That first issue seemed to happen when we stopped the boat waited a minute for the next skier and then idled over the the dock. If you didnt put it in neutral and rev the engine the temp would skyrocket and hit limp mode. From my untrained perspective it almost seemed as though a thermostat wasnt opening and the revving was somehow sorting that out (i dont really know for sure though) If you had the engine light come on, and the boat overheat and go into limp mode would a technician be able to see some kind of code when they hooked it up to a computer? That was a strange one to us as the dealer kept stating the boat showed no engine codes

@bigtex2011 no, limp mode if I remember correctly the boat wont get on plane. When we had it back last time it could get a skier out of the water but would struggle to even get the lightest skier up and to speed.

Hi everyone, Our ski club has a 2019 txi with the 6L , we have had issues with this boat since the first day and I'm wondering if anyone else has had these issues and perhaps knows a fix. Our dealer doesnt know what to do and our club is losing a lot of ski time this year because of it. Since the first day the service engine light will come on, and then after the first set the engine will overheat and go into limp mode. We can then get the boat working by turning it off and on and revving the engine a bit in neutral. *note our dealer claims that while checking the engine codes that there are none to be found. No fix/repair and we were told to continue using the boat. At the end of july our boat began misfiring, we got the boat back "fixed" but it would not make power and certainly could not pull a skier even at slow speeds. Boat has been at the dealership now for a couple weeks and everyone says they are "stumped". I believe this is a known issue with these malibu's with this engine. Last year I heard in the fall that these boats had an engine issue that sounded the same as what we are having. Unfortunately we had already ordered our boat so we couldn't make a change. Has anyone else experienced this and hopefully found a fix? Thanks! Edit: put 6.2l but it's a 6L

@John Brooks I agree its the competition that matters, but when the site is on open water every skier is going to have different conditions. Look at the two videos above, if the conditions vary that much it cant really be considered fair competition.

An intense desire for speed! Or maybe the refreshing clarity of rapid deceleration.

@hemlock you 100% need to go back to the battery for the constant power leads of your amp. Then you can connect the remote wire to a switched accessory lead (key on power)

you really cant go wrong with the senate, the "best" version you can afford. As for bindings its really a personal preference, if you are in double boots and like them then stick with that. But if you think a singe boot plus RPT is safer then there is no time like the present to make the switch. Try not to get too hung up on the different release systems, they are all good and have their own pros and cons. Just be aware that changing bindings takes a while to get used to, dont be surprised when it feels like you cant ski at all for the first few weeks.

@markn I bet that has more to do with the level of skiing than the bindings. Most people change to hard shells once their skiing starts getting better. They are becoming a more aggressive skier and are dealing with faster speeds and greater loads. On our dock we have +90% of our skiers on hardshells (about 30 skiers). I can say without a doubt we have more injuries in hardshells than rubber boots. Do you think it has anything to do with the bindings?

@HighAltitude i hate to break it to you but at 15 off no thousands of an inch changes to your fin are going to fix your skiing, you aren't breaking at the waist because of fin depth/length or wing angles the sooner you get that out of your head the sooner you can focus on what really matters. Set your fin to stock (put the stock wing and fin on if you have to), get your bindings in the right location(stock) and forget about it. Get healthy, put the fin whisperer book away, get on the water and work on your skiing. Whenever you get back to the dock and think something like; "my fin isn't turning 2/4 ball" have someone slap you. Post a video of you skiing! Then we can really help. I apologize if this seems a bit harsh, there are people trying to help you but have no idea how you ski!

All binding systems have their pros and cons, none of them are perfect in regards to safety and release. Performance advantage/disadvantage is clearly debatable. Goode/MOB/Strada/reflex with every one of them you will find someone who loves them and someone who hates them. If your only concern is how long it will take you to get used to the new bindings then make the change and suck it up. Its going to suck for a while, but you will learn some new things a long the way and be better for it.... eventually :wink: Once you lose confidence in a particular binding system it is hard to get that confidence back. Sometimes you have to make the change just for the sake of your confidence.

@lkb great skiing, you move through the load easy and get the ski onto the other edge early, where a lot of people pull long. Out of 1,3,5 if you can get more rotation into the direction of travel, so your chest/belly button is pointing in the direction your ski is pointing, you will start to get an earlier line into 2/4. A different way of saying the same thing @gregy mentioned about getting that outside shoulder away from the boat.

@Jordan to me it looks like there is quite a bit of heel lift and movement there.