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    All pro tournaments should be head to head

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    13 hours ago, dave2ball said:

    Myself and some others were talking about this issue in the officials shack during the MC pro. Not head to head but how to make the sport more appealing for slalom. One thought was you get 4 passes. That would force skiers to start shorter or opt up making the event more exciting. We all agreed in the shack that it is boring watching the top skiers run 32,  35 and even 38. And as of now with out minimum rope length starts the boat makes 6 passes. 
    this thought should be taken into a new topic I believe if it gains traction.  

    While eating my cardboard cereal this morning and reading this it struck me that big tournaments used to be for the spectators, and then it became really for the skiers, but now with TWBC really putting out a great product...who are they for now? Are they still for the top level skiers? Are they for the spectators? Or are they for the viewers? 

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    All pro tournaments should be head to head

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    @Wish I feel like those were a novelty. You can watch 2 runners at a time because they are so close together...2 skiers at a time required the aerial view which is cool for about 3 second, but you can't see a person get broken over from 30 feet. I am with APB in that it would be good to see less warm up passes. It's impressive they can run 38 in their sleep, but watching 10 skiers in a row run it gets tedious...again thinking pitch clock...keep it moving, keep it exciting.  

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    All pro tournaments should be head to head

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    1 hour ago, Horton said:

    I know some of the elite skiers don't prefer H2H.

     

    1 hour ago, Than_Bogan said:

    I completely disagree with this sentiment.

    In a sport that doesn't require an opponent, head-to-head is just superimposed in an illogical way.  Just like all of the field events in Track & Field, it's just you against the event.  Whoever does the most/highest/furthest is the winner.

    Head-to-head in slalom produces results that make no sense, like someone getting into the next round with a far worse score than somebody who was eliminated.  In tennis, there is no choice but to play head-to-head, because the sport requires an opponent.  We are forced to live with the possibility that somebody gets a weirdly easy path through the tournament.  In sports that don't require an opponent, we don't have to let that happen!

    And, thanks to other rules of slalom, there is a HUGE incentive for the second person in a head-to-head bracket to do "just enough" to move on, and I never never never want to watch one of the best in the world simply stop doing their sport.  Heck, the worst part of even non-head-to-head format is when the last skier does just enough to win and then skis home.  I'll say it again: I tuned in to watch people ski, not stop skiing.

    In fact, the head-to-head format actually encourages the first skier to stop skiing.  Unless you're up against Nate, do you really want to risk turning the 3 ball at -41, knowing that 3 is gonna be really hard to beat, but 2.5 may allow the second guy to just "take the win."

    If there are folks who love watching head-to-head, then have some events for them.  But PLEASE do not make all pro events head-to-head!

    How does pole vault work?

    All pro tournaments should be head to head

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    Swimming you don't have one person put up a time and then see if someone else can do it, Gymnastics, one person does a single routine, then the next person, they don't do 6 passes on the vault. Nascar, everyone is on the track at the same time, cycling time trials I believe are the same, a person goes once, then the next person goes. 

    So as I am typing this I realize the most important difference is that in our sport a person goes x # of times, then then next person y# of times...which is more like cornhole...we don't want to be water cornhole. 

    More action, more tension, better viewing...head to head.

    New vest wanted

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    I kind of went in a little different direction and tried the Follow vest after being on Camaro for quite a while. I liked the Camaro because the 'back brace' kept the vest from flipping up on more violent falls. It always did well, but I hated that it weighed 1 ton (American, not Metric) when it was wet. I also wear an earplug in one ear, so I found the pocket in the follow vest intriguing. 

    The flotation is better than I expected, the fit is good, but tight in the arms, so if that isn't your thing, look elsewhere. Had a good crash this weekend and the protection was good. It is pretty light when it gets wet. Just another option to look into. 

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