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In todays world I think the answer to Horton's question is obvious: Male NBA players would identify as female and play in the WNBA. I would still choose $5 over having my favorite WNBA team win the title but then again I would choose $5 over having my favorite NBA team win the title.

Uncorroberated hearsay not uncollaborated.

As the parent of 2 teenagers and 1 recent college graduate who knows everything, I always try to be very precise w/my comments. For this reason I defined a bobtail engine in my earlier post. It is not a crate engine nor a warehouse full of engines based on uncollaborated hearsay. @buecher thank you for the link. That pricing is about $200 less than the crate 5.7 engines I purchased this past season (pre-pandemic those crate engines were approx $2500.00). As long as there is a doner engine purchasing a crate engine is a viable/less expensive option for a ZO compatible engine. Sorry for veering off subject. Back on subject I agree w/@DW's comment we are lucky the manufacturers continue making and improving ski specific boats. Guessing real high and not including off shore direct drive boats: MC 250, CC 175, BU 75, all others 50 = 550. Really think a more accurate estimate is: MC 175, CC 125 (SN and 200 combined), BU 60, all others 20.

@GaryJanzig other than PCM and Marine Power are there any other companies providing a non-cat bobtail (bolt on a trans, hook up gas, connect exhaust, do some wiring and you're ready to crank) engine? The last time I tried to buy a bobtail non-cat from Indmar it was not an option. Indmar hasn't even offered a non-cat calibration for ZO in years. I don't think CC's aquisitions will in any way affect costs involved in re-powering older boats. As things are now re-powering older boats w/a non-cat PCM 6.0 409HP engine w/80A transmission costs less than a 200 HP Mercury outboard and as far as I know there are only 2 viable sources for non-cat bobtail repowers and only 1is ZO compatible. A bigger and more realistic concern is what happens when the 6.0 is NLA? Prices will really jump when DI engines are the only option, not to mention the extensive engine box modifications required.

Within the last year I watched a video of Indmar's pod engine introduction which is designed for pontoon boats. During the years I spent selling pontoon boats outboards dominated (and still do) but this unit allows a pontoon to manuever in tight spaces as if it has thrusters. Could be a game changer, pretty cool. Someone caught my eye in the video, Bill Yeargin. Correct Craft's CEO was in attendance of the product's introduction. To my knowledge Correct Craft has most pleasure boats under it's umbrella. However, don't think they own a pontoon boat company. Maybe the Indmar purchase is in anticipation of expanding into a pontoon line. I don't see the ecoboost as something CC is interested in continueing (could be wrong, have been before), so that leaves Indmar's casting capability (as @jodyseal mentioned) and the engine pod as 2 things very much filling a void in the CC line up.

@Toddl Actually the set of circumstances mentioned is not very unique as I'm sure every course skier has experienced the fall described. Not sure I follow your comment on binder systems. Are you stating they all can fail and therefore all gloves might fail? If so, my point is made and the "completely release" comment in your earlier post is not correct. False information can lead to serious injury in our "risky" sport. All products are not for everyone and the ProLock gloves are a product which should not be used by someone w/shoulder issues, IMO. There have been posts on this forum specifically on ProLock style gloves and several comments were made similar to mine. They can and do snatch (may be related to using a traditional handle). One of my ski partners and my daughter both use ProLocks and have never had an issue. Both use the ML Evo handle (ML's counterpart to US Gear). Never put 2+2 together but in view of the fact you use the US Gear and have never had an issue w/ProLocks, perhaps that style handle mitigates the risk. I'm not anti ProLock and not anti @Toddl. Usually I agree w/your comments.

@Toddl, @horton In most cases the ProLock style glove will release as soon as you open your hand. However, there are instances where they catch as theyre releasing. Making the statement, "they completely release..." is not correct. If you are coming out of the turn, overturn resulting is excessive slowdown and fall toward the boat, there is a likely possibility as you open your hand the dowel will be in a verticle position. When the handle is pulled by the boat the triangular corner where bar meets rope catches the dowel resulting in a snatch of the shoulder before the glove is free of the handle. Usually this is not a big deal on a healthy shoulder. However, many skiers don't have healthy shoulders and this snatch can result in several weeks of rehab or surgery. I love the ProLock/clincher style gloves but stopped using them years ago for the above stated reason. This season in an effort to "de-stress" my hands I went back to the ProLock. Unfortunately, I missed several weeks in July/early August after the gloves which you stated, "completely release" simply did not completely release. Shoulder still isn't great but able to ski. Will never use ProLocks again and suggest anyone w/shoulder issues avoid them as well.

@MinnesotaMiller prior posts mentioning the Siege having many iterations are correct. In the '90s the ski was a narrow tunnel ski which you either loved or hated. Not sure there is a single narrow tunnel ski being made today. Funny story to give an example of the non user friendly attributes of some narrow tunnel skis: Kidder had one called the Velocity and within 3 months discontinued it and introduced the Velocity ST. My Kidder rep at the time said the ST was an acronym for "Second Try". However, the 2017 Siege is made from the Sixam 2.0 mold but doesn't have the 100% carbon construction (100% is a marketing gimmick which referrs to the top layer being a sheet of carbon covering 100% of the ski rather than strips as in the early days of carbon constructed skis). The 2017 Siege is very capable of taking you through 28 off and is a super stable platform if you are a true beginner.

I heard Brenda was taking time off to start a satelite company named B Lines.

@dvskier I agree w/everything in your post except the 30 year comment. Skip has well over 40 and probably closer to 50 years w/CC/Nautique. If he suggests I call, I call.

Mary Morgan Howell won Masters this year in Women's Wakeboard for the 2nd year in a row. She's 19. @mike_mapple I'm hoping Joel Poland is the 1st of many 3 eventers to gain social media attention. His expoits are truly amazing and fun to watch. His trick run at the Masters and the crowd's reaction reminded me of when Parks did a back flip off the ramp after doing a winning run back in the early years of wakeboarding's inclusion at The Masters. When Joel pulled out the trick (long out of time but who cares) the crowd went nuts. Then they replayed it on the big screen in the lake and the crowd went nuts again. That's how cool it was. His online presence is a shot in the arm for the sport.

Seems that everytime I see a name on BOS as the heading of a topic it is announcing a death. Don't know Bruce but am glad he's alive, well and killin it on the course!

Came home from work last week and my son was playing basketball w/friends in our drive. Several of the boys arrived in a golf cart which was playing "offensive to me" music. Not vulgar just horrible noise (same thing my Dad thought about my music). As I was pulling into the garage I thought about telling them to cut the crap off. Think I made the right decision by ignoring it (it wasn't overly loud/neighborhood disturbing loud) and going inside. That being said, there is no way I would spend the kind of money it takes to live on a private site knowing the possibility existed where I'd be subjected to that "music" being blared whether skiing or not. I'd require a "no amplied stereo clause" in the covenant.

subtract $400 (throttle body not required) from estimate above: $4600-4900. @bdmz haven't converted a 6.0 LQ9 but since it was used w/ZO from 2007-2009 I'm sure it can be done. As w/the 5.7 it will require replacing your Mefi 4 ignition w/E-control. Your 2003 will require converting to dbw.

Converting from Mefi 4 (ignition system on your 2006 SN) to E-control (ignition system required for ZO) requires several expensive components, i.e. wiring harness, ECM, throttle potentiometer along w/several less expensive components, i.e. brackets, sensors, connectors. Once this conversion is done the engine is compatible w/ZO. Since your engine is DBW you will not have to change the throttle body which saves approx $400. However, it isn't a cheap conversion. In round numbers you can expect $5000.00-5300.00 including ZO.