JoelHowley

I love it. I think the wake is best at 35off. At 39 and 41 there is still a hole however for me it feels like a smaller hole than the other boats.

This brings back some awesome memories. I ski at Swiss Ski School these days however as a result of this thread I skied at lots of good sites around Orlando so thank you to all those who responded back then when I was just starting out. @Ed_Johnson cheers for the stories, I still remember at least three of them, haha. Good times.

This thread is awesome. @FLeboeuf I would keep you on the 66. The GTR rides higher than the GT exiting the turn and rides just as deep as the GT into the turn. @Jaypro The GTR will work better than any other ski we sell for any speed. I have seen this on many occasions when skiers going slow who can’t even run the course get massive improvements in speed, turning radius and stability by swapping from an intermediate ski to a GT. If you are a somewhat healthy weight and getting out of the water is not an issue the GTR will make you a better skier than any other ski we sell.

A strong skier on a short line will generally have no issue getting the ski back under the line so at that point it’s better to give them a bit more surface area to accelerate with.

Thanks again for all the comments, I would put @FLeboeuf on a 67 and @coach3 on a 66. With deep riding skis it is easier to go a little longer. On the GTR I will be telling people between 130-160lbs to go for the 66. and people between 160-190lbs to go for the 67. However if your power to weight ratio is really good or if you are running shorter than 35off generally you would want to go up a size if you are within 5 or so pounds of the upper limit.

Shoot me a message on FaceBook if you want to demo a GTR and I will work something out. Search for Joel Patrick Howley.

Loving the support. Thank you all for the nice comments. When you get your hands on one feel free to send me a video and I will help you dial it in.

The Connelly Carbon V would be another good option to consider. It rides quite high in the water which will help you cross those wakes and it still grips like a high end ski. https://www.h2oproshop.com/collections/slalom-skis/products/2018-connelly-carbon-v

Radar Senate would be good. My pick would be the Connelly Carbon V. The V has a stepped hull to reduce some drag and functions like a slightly less aggressive high end ski. https://www.h2oproshop.com/collections/slalom-skis/products/2018-connelly-carbon-v

The ideal window for longitudinal and torsional flex is inversely correlated meaning that a longitudinally soft ski which is stiff torsionally will still ski good as will a longitudinally stiff ski which is soft torsionally. My first ever request to Connelly when we were starting the GT was a ski with carbon strands at 45 degrees crossing through the underside of the ski to stiffen it up torsionally. The ski kinda sucked so I put some unidirectional carbon on it to make it stiffer longitudinally and then it sucked even worse, haha. I couldn’t run 28off on it. I have learned a lot since then.

Well this thread is legit… From my experience it is common to see skis that use prepreg carbon stop performing despite the longitudinal flex remaining the same. However if you take that same ski and flex it torsionally those numbers will generally be softer. Despite having heard this many times I have only seen it confirmed once so there is still a chance that a ski may flex both torsionally and longitudinally identical to the day it was made despite having lost its performance due entirely to changes in the rebound characteristics.

Yes it does. Stiff skis will take a more direct line into the ball with less tail slide. They run a path more applicable to what is required at short lines or what is the reality of running longer lines on a less than ideal path like skiers tend to do on their harder passes.

Soft skis feel amazing untill I get to 38off after that they feel slow exiting the ball. Soft skis slide and stiff skis grip. You get much less pre turn from stiff skis but you also get far more aggressive turns and better acceleration with less chance of overturning. Generally speaking everyone will run their first passes better with a softer ski but when the chaos of your hard passes starts soft skis will be too sluggish to keep up with the corrections you are making. Too soft and too stiff are both bad but I think "some" skis on the market are too soft just so they feel good when you first ride them. I'm quite bias tho, haha.

Hey Ballers. I haven't been here for a while but I want to get back into the forums a bit more. My front boot is a Snow ski boot and the back boot is a fogman with a homemade heel lift. I pull longer than Nate because I can't seem to get my hip to the inside of my turn like he does with makes my turn radius larger and therefore requires me to pull a bit longer.

@chef23, Yep I was on the GT with Prophecy graphics @coach3, The tail modification does tend to make turning a larger ski an easier process however we have made the front torsionally softer than the Prophecy as this allows the front of the ski to unwind when/if you happen to overturn so I would suggest sticking with exactly the same length.

Hi All... The GT is coming... But it's not here yet. I’m riding a quite resolved prototype, production skis will be out in about a month. The thing is absolutely ridiculous! I love it and everyone I have seen test it so far has ran big scores so it will be interesting to see what the BOS community has to say when we start selling them. Thanks to many years of collaboration between Jamie and Doug (Connelly's Engineer) the Prophecy has an extremely well resolved and extremely complex system of bevels from tip to tail more than capable of 41off. The general consensus with the engineering team was that altering the bevel system was not going to drastically alter what the ski is capable of. The concept we went with was hinged on the principal that currently ski design is based on a tradeoff between... Acceleration vs Brakes and Grip vs Drag. When you’re tweaking bevels increasing acceleration is easy but you’re going to decrease the skis ability to bleed speed and increasing grip is easy but you’re going to add drag. Basically the goal was to produce a ski which had more grip with less drag without altering the skis overall attitude. The concept is so simple but it's such a difficult thing to accomplish. Less drag gives greater acceleration and more grip means the ski would not need better brakes as it would be capable of making the same radius turn as the prophecy at a higher speed. We kept things super quiet for so long because everything we tested was extremely conceptual so it was hard to develop a timeframe for production. There are some things happening inside the ski that I signed a contract not to speak about but as for the thinner side wall at the tail of the ski. This reduces the surface area making contact with the water when the ski is on edge which allows the ski to ride deeper and therefore increases grip. The altered shape of the V's allow cleaner water flow along the skis edge with a greater disturbance to the water flow through the tunnel of the ski which ultimately reduces drag. Reducing the drag to this extent on the prophecy makes the ski feel like you have no wing. And making the tail of the old prophecy ride this deep makes it feel like you have your wing set to 15 degrees. But when you combine the two it produces a ski which is quite simply capable of carrying more speed through the turn than anything I have ever rode before. Thanks for the interest... Hope I answered some questions.

@Sully - Your Washington offer is certainly tempting if Orlando doesn't work out. @Chef23 - Thanks Mark @Iff - Zbox is tempting but I really cant take the risk. I revert back to my old way's of PP skiing way too easily. @Ed_Johnson - I just replied to you email... It that works out for I would be stoked! @SkiKolb - Yes! haha, thanks for the call. A shared membership with someone who wants 4 sets every second day would be amazing. The set up you have at Lapoint Ski Park is fantastic. @454SS - If only I could afford to hire you. Thank you all for the offers.

@Brady --- Utah certainly sounds interesting, would love to test out the Cherokee I just bought on the salt flats.

@rayn - Thanks Ray.... I miss that place so much. It makes me question why my desire to improve is so much stronger than my desire to have fun. Hope U have an unreal time, I was with some of the Coble crew at Malibu. April has put together another awesome group of coaches.

@Than_Bogan I don't really know anything about where Jamie skis.

Well Texas and/or Atlanta would be cool. Thank you both. Staying in Florida would be best because it means I can do lots of tournaments however training is more important than competing so if I haven't sorted out some more places to ski in a month or two I would definitely be keen to move.

Hi all... If there is someone out there that skis around 12:00 noon I am often finding myself with nowhere to ski at about that time. Or if there is someone who skis in the afternoons that would be happy to let me take 3 sets I would be keen for that also. I ski every second day and do tournaments most week ends. Also if you have any other ideas/advice let me know. I'm only in the states to ski and I'm open to suggestions. I would be more than willing to drive, pay for fuel and coach. I'm avoiding working at ski schools this season so I can train on the days I don't ski. You don't need to be an ace driver however I do need zero off and a slalom course. Thanks... Joel Howley >shortlineslalom@gmail.com >407 797 3377

yeah. is that what you have?

The trend seems to be moving about half a hole further forward when swapping from the 2012 to the 2013 and leaving the fin the same. However after moving around I am currently running everything the same. >Heel of front foot -- 29.3307" from the tail of ski. (74.5cm) >Wing at 9 > Fin at--2.529--6.823--.750

This is what I got with my 67 2012. I run the same settings on my 67 2013 with my boots 4mm (0.15748inches) further forward. Heel of my front foot on my 2013 is 74.8cm (29.4488inches) from the tail.