Baller Not_The_Pug Posted August 23, 2011 Baller Share Posted August 23, 2011 Thanks Dirt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Dirt Posted August 23, 2011 Baller Share Posted August 23, 2011 Stay closer to 29 1/2 or 29 5/8 binding placement and move forward if you feel like you are getting stuck on the tail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Not_The_Pug Posted August 23, 2011 Baller Share Posted August 23, 2011 I think we set it right at 29 1/2 when I tried it before. Will start there and make changes throughout the weekend based on feel. Hopefully it will get here on Thursday so I can ski it before the tournament. Otherwise trial by fire. You going to Coyote they weekend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Mateo_Vargas Posted August 23, 2011 Baller Share Posted August 23, 2011 Dirt, what numbers are you using on your Vogue? I want to try them on my Cheetah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted August 23, 2011 Author Administrators Share Posted August 23, 2011 That is my Vogue! Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Not_The_Pug Posted August 23, 2011 Baller Share Posted August 23, 2011 Mateo Vargas, Bring the cheetah this weekend, we can do old wood ski slalom Saturday night after the tournament. Maybe we can borrow Dirt's Vogue so we can do head-to-head like the pros? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Mateo_Vargas Posted August 23, 2011 Baller Share Posted August 23, 2011 Two problems. 1) The Cheetah lives in Michigan. 2) You are assuming we could make a pass on either ski. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Dirt Posted August 23, 2011 Baller Share Posted August 23, 2011 You can use my Vogue or my A2. I am going to Coyote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Not_The_Pug Posted August 24, 2011 Baller Share Posted August 24, 2011 1) Fed-Ex overnight? 2) No, but it would sure be fun to try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted August 24, 2011 Author Administrators Share Posted August 24, 2011 No not your Vogue or your A2 Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Mateo_Vargas Posted August 24, 2011 Baller Share Posted August 24, 2011 Wow, there is a sweet Vogue just listed on SIA http://www.ski-it-again.com/php/skiitagain.php?topic=Search&postid=16703 Maybe we should buy it Kevin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Not_The_Pug Posted August 24, 2011 Baller Share Posted August 24, 2011 That guy will sell anything for an A2! We will need a demo ride first, at least he is local. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted August 24, 2011 Author Administrators Share Posted August 24, 2011 OK that is it. Dirt, send the ski back now or I will call out the txt msg army again. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skidawg Posted August 25, 2011 Baller Share Posted August 25, 2011 I just put a bid in on this one, i think it is on ebay also! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Dirt Posted September 3, 2011 Baller Share Posted September 3, 2011 Horton wants Badal's 2012 A2. I will have to send it to him after all the drama I have caused him over a borrowed ski. The ski is incredible. I wish I did not make such huge mistakes. The ski does everything right and is very forgiving. The amount of angle it gets is sick. I will send it to Scoke and he will send it to Horton when he is done with the Prophesies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted September 3, 2011 Author Administrators Share Posted September 3, 2011 @Dirt Do not make me unleash the power of the Ballers on you again. Does your call phone plan bill you per text? Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Chuck_Dickey Posted September 5, 2011 Baller Share Posted September 5, 2011 2012 looks really cool! Here's mine and my daughters new rides Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Ed_Johnson Posted September 5, 2011 Baller Share Posted September 5, 2011 For the 34 mph skiers, heavily consider the 2012 S-2 !!! I think you will really be surprised how well this step bottom ski performs, and especially how "Forgiving" it can be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 5, 2011 Share Posted September 5, 2011 I thought the stepped bottom in the Coefficient-X rocked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ForrestGump Posted April 24, 2012 Baller Share Posted April 24, 2012 Well, I borrowed Mueller's 66.5" A2 that Dave Wingerter at HO sent him to try. I've got 3 sets in on it and son of a bitch, I don't want to give it back. Stupid, unreal angle. It doesn't give up angle at the finish of the turn either. On the MID I can see the ski tip come around sometimes, set, and then fall back towards the boat a bit. This ski just comes around farther, you get back on the handle, and it just goes. Carryout off the 2nd wake is fantastic. With the same effort or less effort, I am ending up with more space in front of me when the ski starts it's arc back to the buoy. Settings are: 6.845" length 2.502" depth .782 dft 9 degree wing Powershell 5s at 29 3/16 Crap, I might have to get a new ski. Grrrrr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ForrestGump Posted May 9, 2012 Baller Share Posted May 9, 2012 Interestingly enough, I tried the 67.5(29 9/16, 2.505, 6.845, 9 degrees)after 12 sets on the 66.5. At first I hated it. It was just slow in comparison to the 66.5 and felt really stiff. Felt a lot like my Goode Mid. Moved the fin bindings forward 1/8 and the fin forward .010 and it started to come alive. Then moved the wing to 10 degrees and it was a rocket ship and turned as hard as I could ever want it to. Skied right up into 35off at that point. It's got the speed and nimbleness of the 66.5 with a lot more stable spot to stand on and because of that, it seems to be less reactive. I can make it do what I want, where the 66.5 kind of did what it wanted and I was along for the ride. lol At 167 lbs, conventional wisdom would say the 67.5 is too big but it's not. So I've pulled a Dirt and have now confiscated that 67.5 and not giving it back. I did hear some of the numbers that the HO guys are running on the 66.5 A2 and they're a lot longer and deeper which would probably tone down the reactiveness of that ski that I felt. But with the texas waters being 98 degrees in late summer, I figured the 67.5 might be the way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller scuppers Posted May 9, 2012 Baller Share Posted May 9, 2012 @ShaneH When you get a chance would you measure your depth on both the 66 and 67. The key being, measure the depth on the right side then using the same technique measure the other side. (find the lallest spot on the curve) I'm asking because my A2 2012 is .010 difference side to side. The side with the factory marks is the shorter side. See what you come up with first. Then tell me which measurement to use. I sent clear pictures of this to HO but got no responce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Deanoski Posted May 10, 2012 Baller Share Posted May 10, 2012 scuppers all skis measure differnt from one side to the other, the caliper sits on a different pant of the ski when measuring. always measure your ski with tip to the left bottom facing you. Deano Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller scuppers Posted May 10, 2012 Baller Share Posted May 10, 2012 @Deanoski: Like this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ForrestGump Posted May 10, 2012 Baller Share Posted May 10, 2012 deano is right, because the head of the caliper is longer on one side. When you measure the other way, the long side of the head of the caliper is the opposite direction. It causes the caliper to be at a slightly different angle fore/aft. If you measured the opposite of that, the long side of the head of the caliper would be going toward the back of the ski. It's not a big difference, but it's enough to throw off the measurement a touch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller thager Posted May 10, 2012 Baller Share Posted May 10, 2012 The surface on each side of the fin slot can vary slightly too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller scuppers Posted May 10, 2012 Baller Share Posted May 10, 2012 @ShaneH & @Deanoski: 8 to 9 thousands difference. So is this (printed side of the fin) the correct/conventional way to measure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ntx Posted May 10, 2012 Baller Share Posted May 10, 2012 You guys are worrying about the wrong things. 8 thousands is about the thickness of two sheets of paper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ForrestGump Posted May 10, 2012 Baller Share Posted May 10, 2012 Exactly! Just go ski! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MattP Posted May 10, 2012 Baller Share Posted May 10, 2012 Unless you are running into deep 39 on a regular basis, you will not feel the difference in 8-9 thousandths Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Deanoski Posted May 12, 2012 Baller Share Posted May 12, 2012 scuppers your posted pic is the right way to measure. I beleive your fin setting is right or its wrong 8-9 th is a big difference that most skiers can feel. Deano Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller scuppers Posted May 14, 2012 Baller Share Posted May 14, 2012 @ Deanoski - Thanks! I would think so too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ The_MS Posted May 14, 2012 Baller_ Share Posted May 14, 2012 I liked the 2011 fin and ski better then the 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller webbdawg99 Posted June 2, 2012 Baller Share Posted June 2, 2012 @MattP 8-9 thousandths is a huge move.....and you don't have to be getting deep into 39 to feel it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller matthewbrown Posted June 2, 2012 Baller Share Posted June 2, 2012 If your fin is 6.861 in length and you increase that by 8 thousandths of an inch to 6.869 and can feel a major difference, you better find another sport because the only difference is in your head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller webbdawg99 Posted June 3, 2012 Baller Share Posted June 3, 2012 .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ForrestGump Posted August 6, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 6, 2012 In our hot 98 degree water, I took the wing off the A2. No difference in feel. Just less work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Sullivan Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 98! Holly Sh## Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ForrestGump Posted August 6, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 6, 2012 Yeah! It's like being the clam in a bowl of chowder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ForrestGump Posted August 6, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 6, 2012 I said clam. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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