Baller bhs Posted June 30, 2012 Baller Share Posted June 30, 2012 Not calling the step bottom of the S2 a gimmick but it does remind me of some "new and innovative" ideas you don't see anymore. For example, HOs power sticks and the Obrien fin with the flap to relieve pressure on one side of the turn. Anyone think of any other crazy ski ideas we don't see anymore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dip Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 My Connelly Attack had a binding system designed to float allowing the ski to have it's natural flex. (actually extremely comfortable bindings). Jobe also made the Carbon V or whatever it was called in the 80's with the V shaped tail. I think it was supposed to give the ski a shorter length for the turns and greater length at the rail for cross-wake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ToddL Posted June 30, 2012 Baller Share Posted June 30, 2012 I recall seeing some ski with a fin that was on a bar attached to the back binding. When there was back heal pressure, the fin slid through the ski slot and deeper. This also caused the wing to decrease in angle. When the back foot pressure was less, the wing rose up through the ski's fin slot making the wing angle more aggressive but the fin not so deep. I can't recall what the ski was, if it was just a prototype or what... There was a lot of hardware in that contraption. Just the mechanism alone surely weighed more than some of today's skis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ToddL Posted June 30, 2012 Baller Share Posted June 30, 2012 Oh... and Carbon fins... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Jody_Seal Posted June 30, 2012 Baller_ Share Posted June 30, 2012 The twin fin thruster! Crap that just dated me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Wish Posted June 30, 2012 Baller_ Share Posted June 30, 2012 Obrien Vengence and AlIegence were a cluster f.... of gimmicks. Ya had 3 ways (2 plates and a rod) you could adjust the stiffness of the tail. Plate for tip flex adjustment. A mini fin under the boot and an hour glass shape forward of the boots. I remember the add. Also a cluster f... of all the things pointed out and then explained. As for the step bottom, I would have said maybe with the S2. But there is no way IMHO the Coefficiant Xsl would operate as will as it does without it. It moves fast and swings stupid wide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Wish Posted June 30, 2012 Baller_ Share Posted June 30, 2012 I would add to the question ... What design features have truly stood the test of time or made skies jump in performance across the board like Carbon fiber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skibug Posted June 30, 2012 Baller Share Posted June 30, 2012 Nano Twist...gimmick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MattP Posted July 1, 2012 Baller Share Posted July 1, 2012 Nano & Twist both gimmicks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller A_B Posted July 1, 2012 Baller Share Posted July 1, 2012 Whale tail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Skihack Posted July 1, 2012 Baller Share Posted July 1, 2012 You have to remember the tunnel wings on the EP GX1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller bhs Posted July 1, 2012 Author Baller Share Posted July 1, 2012 You have to describe the wings on the EP.... Don't remember. The Obrien vengeance, was that the one where the tunnel kinda Crissy crossed towards the tail? It had that funky tip.... Or maybe that was the G3. Nano twist really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Skihack Posted July 1, 2012 Baller Share Posted July 1, 2012 it was like two small tubes, one on each side of the fin. I remember trying one in the year 1984, got the ski from Dave Curmi with EP. The Prostock was still the top of the line ski that year though. You really didn't need a wing on the Pro Stock that was a wicked ski. It was recommended for 32 off and shorter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 The wing on the EP GX3 was called a venturi tube. The other gimmick was the Mastercraft ski that had a radius built into one side or the other depending on right or left foot forward. Does anyone else think that sounds a bit like the "twist"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ The_MS Posted July 2, 2012 Baller_ Share Posted July 2, 2012 @MattP You are correct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller webbdawg99 Posted July 2, 2012 Baller Share Posted July 2, 2012 What's happened with the Raley ventral wing? I know it was a hot topic for a while but it seems to have faded.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller A_B Posted July 6, 2012 Baller Share Posted July 6, 2012 Wasn't there a Jobe with a "V" notched tail? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MattP Posted July 6, 2012 Baller Share Posted July 6, 2012 Hype, Hype, Hype. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Triplett Posted July 6, 2012 Baller Share Posted July 6, 2012 A little birdy told me (twitter) that they have production skis and they will be at the big dog in France. I know it doesn't help you @OB but it is start. Give them props though. From concept to production in under a year if I am not mistaken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted July 6, 2012 Administrators Share Posted July 6, 2012 @OB Come on man that is a little harsh. They have a web site and have shown some skis but if you go to their web site you will see that the skis are not yet of sale. It was not practical to keep what they were doing a secret and it takes time to get going. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Taperflex Posted July 6, 2012 Baller Share Posted July 6, 2012 Western Funnel Tunnel. We called it the funky tunnel. Also, remember the adjustable wing? It had a knob on the top of the fin so you could adjust the wing angle for head or tail winds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taelan28 Posted July 7, 2012 Share Posted July 7, 2012 HOW DARE YOU GUYS CRITICIZE THE AM SKI ITS NOT EVEN OUT YET. YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THEIR NEW HOLLOW CORE PRODUCTION PROCESS AND TESTING PROCESS. IF THEY DONT TEST IT AS MUCH AS THEY CAN AND GET IT JUST RIGHT THEN THEY WILL HAVE A BAD NAME IN THE MARKET. IM SURE THEY ARE TESTING ALL DAY EVERY DAY AND TRYING TO RAMP UP PRODUCTION... HONESTLY GUYS ITS ANDY MAPPLE HES DONE SO MUCH FOR THE SPORT. YOU DONT EVEN NEED TO HAVE FAITH IN H AND ADAM CORD. THEYLL MAKE A GREAT SKI AND BLOW EVERYONE AWAY WITH A STICK THAT MAY BE MARGINALLY BETTER THAN ANYTHING ON THE MARKET. YOU JUST WAIT AND SHUT YOUR TRAPS!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller thager Posted July 7, 2012 Baller Share Posted July 7, 2012 Torque Super Comp with the venturi tunnel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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