Baller ForrestGump Posted July 25, 2012 Baller Share Posted July 25, 2012 When you think about it, there is some merit to the theory. And precedent on the theory. Length dictates turn radius. Just because you're heavier, doesn't mean you want the turn to be larger. And vice versa. It's what's worked with the Warp for the last 4 years. There's only a 67 warp and women from 125lbs to 200+lb men are riding it with the only change being flex and rocker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jipster43 Posted July 25, 2012 Baller Share Posted July 25, 2012 In snow ski design sidecut (ski shape) has more to do with turn radius than the length of the ski. But I recognize that waterskis are a whole 'nother beast! Some models ski divinely at 67.5 but are dogs at 66.5. I can't pretend to understand that entirely, but I'm assuming that waterskis are far more sensitive to length than their snow ski pals. I do know that David Miller and Regina Jacques are very different in size and they both seem to be skiing great on this new stick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted July 25, 2012 Administrators Share Posted July 25, 2012 I confess. I had a dream about the new Goode last night. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporting Member Than_Bogan Posted July 25, 2012 Author Supporting Member Share Posted July 25, 2012 @Horton Now THAT's successful marketing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporting Member Than_Bogan Posted July 25, 2012 Author Supporting Member Share Posted July 25, 2012 Btw, I call BS on the "reason" behind the one-size-fits-all. To be clear, there is strong evidence that it is working, as Regina and Nick Parsons span a big range of size. I just don't think that the turning radius explanation is the right one. Length is clearly not the only thing that dictates the natural turn radius, if there even is such a thing as a natural turn radius. So I can't call that an adequate explanation of single size. Such an explanation probably does exist, given the results so far. But then again maybe they just found the perfect shape for turning at that length, and in theory a (slightly different) perfect shape could be found for other lengths, and it would work even better for someone of the corresponding size. Of course, I don't especially care, because this size is probably the one I'd get anyhow! And I'm kind of a fan of limited choices -- see my previous tirade re too many ZO settings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted July 25, 2012 Administrators Share Posted July 25, 2012 @Than Bogan If the darn thing works who cares why. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporting Member Than_Bogan Posted July 25, 2012 Author Supporting Member Share Posted July 25, 2012 @Horton The engineers do. If you don't know why something works, you can't use that to your advantage for the next design. (I know you know that, but still worth answering.) Users, of course, do not care why something works. But actually my purpose was just to point out that I don't believe everything in Goode literature! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller bhs Posted July 25, 2012 Baller Share Posted July 25, 2012 I heard that Parsons liked it tell the water warmed up but then it stopped working for him. He is not skiing on the new ski. Heard he was on some kinda hybrid wide ride. Same ski Tgas is on. The ski is working for Chad Scot does anyone know how tall/ weighs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Stevie Boy Posted July 25, 2012 Baller Share Posted July 25, 2012 Wing 9 -10 Degrees ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted July 26, 2012 Administrators Share Posted July 26, 2012 @bhs Rumors. Beware of rumors. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Skihack Posted July 28, 2012 Baller Share Posted July 28, 2012 What is a slight inside radius under the front foot mean? That is what is advertised on this Goode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Wish Posted July 28, 2012 Baller_ Share Posted July 28, 2012 means there's just a "little" inside radius. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Skihack Posted July 28, 2012 Baller Share Posted July 28, 2012 So, it sounds like it is more like a parabolic than a concave? Right or wrong? I am thinking that the Strada has already had a little inside radius as well as the orginal red/blue sixam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Stevie Boy Posted July 28, 2012 Baller Share Posted July 28, 2012 It could be hexangional for all I care, does the thing work for your average skier, or is it for top end skiers who have all the necessary skills to use it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Skihack Posted July 28, 2012 Baller Share Posted July 28, 2012 One thing I've noticed with the Goodes are that those who ride them are scoring way higher than they would've 14, 20, or 25 years ago. Our ski club somewhat proved that with a "ride an old ski" tournament. However, we did not go so far as to ride wooden skis. Coincidently, I do not believe the Goode's have benefitted the "perfect technique skier" as much as the average tournament skier. This is where Dave Goode's ingenuity comes into play. He has designed a ski that has allowed more skiers to ski much betterthan they would ever had back in the day. For the last 12 or so years, the rest of the industry has been playing catch up to Goode. Now let the verbal assaults come. I know there coming. I just know it. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller thager Posted July 28, 2012 Baller Share Posted July 28, 2012 Nope. Boring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Skihack Posted July 28, 2012 Baller Share Posted July 28, 2012 likewise:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ForrestGump Posted July 28, 2012 Baller Share Posted July 28, 2012 @skimech A lot of skis use a sidecut or hourglass in their profile. Prior to the nano one, the standard Goode 9900/9960 had a slight hourglass in front of the front binding. The Mid and wide did away with the hourglass. On the one, they moved it rearward. There is also a slight hourglass in the tail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Skihack Posted July 28, 2012 Baller Share Posted July 28, 2012 Hence a venturi effect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Stevie Boy Posted July 30, 2012 Baller Share Posted July 30, 2012 A few people must have these skis by now, it,s gone very quite, nobody raving about it, whats the word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Boody Posted July 30, 2012 Baller Share Posted July 30, 2012 Only a few Goode sponsored skiers have them - these were tweeted out by Goode this weekend, all on the Nano One: - Jay Leach, Chad Scott 1st, 2nd at Southern Reg - Tyler Scott won M1 - Lonnie Harris won M5 - Makayla just got hers a few days ago, but I don't think she ski'd regionals on it - Not sure if Terry Winter was on it when he won Open and got 3 at 41 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jcamp Posted July 30, 2012 Baller Share Posted July 30, 2012 Yes, Terry Winter was on it when he won the Western Regionals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MAD11 Posted July 30, 2012 Baller Share Posted July 30, 2012 Got two on Friday. Tried them both yesterday. First sets felt great. Daughter tied her pb for our lake first set and it's not quite right yet. I just ran 8 back to backs at 32off/35 mph since I am just starting to ski again and they were wide, early and easy. Dont think I lost connection once. Reminded me of my Warp, but much less effort. Ski is for real. Will provide more info later this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Rich Posted July 31, 2012 Baller Share Posted July 31, 2012 No, Terry was not on Nano one he was on a traditional shape 65.25 9900 Thats a fact! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Not_The_Pug Posted July 31, 2012 Baller Share Posted July 31, 2012 He looked like he was running his white/black Nano at Regional's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Rich Posted July 31, 2012 Baller Share Posted July 31, 2012 correction; traditional shaped nano Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Zman Posted August 1, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 1, 2012 Hey Marc - How long were you not skiing? How are things going now? JZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MAD11 Posted August 1, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 1, 2012 @zman I haven't skied since @jdarwins early June tourny. Before that only a few sets (maybe 3 per month. Enough to make me sore every time) due to my business travel. Trying to get going again now. Biggest issue is my dam hands are not in shape for 97 degree water and killing me. ok, back on topic: Ski feels great. I have 3 sets on it. I am getting too much tip in the water on my heel side at 38 (I am RFF) and need to possibly move the boots a little. Interestingly, I have canted my rear boot a ton for years. This ski turns the same with my foot almost straight, which is big for me. This will help improve my line out to 2/4 if I can run it straighter. I'm taking it easy right now and think it will work great. Several neighbors who just watched me run a few back to backs @ 35off immediately went and placed orders with Goode. My daughter is doing well on hers. She is so light on the line with it when driving I'm not sure she even turned the buoy sometimes, even @ 35off and 38 off. She rode a traditional shape 64" Nano (which has worked great) before and this ski seems to take much less effort for her since it is a little bigger. Her line in and out of the buoy (especially her offside) are the best they have ever been on this ski. Short story is she started to worry about where to put stickers on the ski last night, which seems to be a serious commitment for a girl skier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Stevie Boy Posted August 2, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 2, 2012 I just know I am gonna get slated, the thing is I am not very good at holding my edge to the bouy, I come off edge way too early, mainly because I load the line too much, reading the Nano One preview literature, it states that you can hold your edge to the bouy and the ski will still shutdown, is this likely to be a problem because I like my skis to carry and not to shutdown, looking to make a decision, but living in the UK shipping cost come into the 30 day thing ! @mad11 is the ski running free at the bouy ? or braking like billyo ! I want speed to be my friend, anybody know where he lives, LOL ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MAD11 Posted August 2, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 2, 2012 @Stevie Boy The ski carries plenty of width and speed. It is not asking to pull longer or harder, but seems to like it when you stay connected and on the handle. I am still edge changing in the same place and getting great width. Not getting a feeling that it wants to shutdown. It stays with you and doesn't run away. When you turn, it comes back under you quickly and makes a lot of angle without excessive load. It has surprised me several times on my offside that it moves through the turn so freely even when I make a mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Stevie Boy Posted August 3, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 3, 2012 ooh err, I lock & load, release early, and ride the ski, generally narrow, not very good at keeping on the handle, I think it,s because our lake has a lot of silt, fast across course, but the ski slips down course in the turn and does not finish the turn that well, or though not correct, my method, gets me to turn tight on the backside of the bouy, no room for error though, @Mad11 whats your thoughts on nano one for me, or am I gonna have to make big changes ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MAD11 Posted August 4, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 4, 2012 @stevie Honest opinion. Best ski I've ridden. It seems to adapt to many different styles easily. I would place the order. I've ridden most of the other skis the guys are talking about and now am done wasting my time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Stevie Boy Posted August 4, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 4, 2012 I am already on the waitlist @Mad11, have you had to do much with the fin/binding placement or are you stock ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Chef23 Posted August 5, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 5, 2012 All this chatter has me wanting to try one. I still don't believe the one size will fit me at 200 lbs running into 35 off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Boody Posted August 5, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 5, 2012 @Chef23, you should call and ask about the possibility of a larger size down the road. I heard something was in the works.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporting Member Than_Bogan Posted August 5, 2012 Author Supporting Member Share Posted August 5, 2012 @chef23 you'll weigh 185 soon at current pace anyhow! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Ed_Johnson Posted August 5, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 5, 2012 Last week Goode called to see if I wanted to order a Nano One. They e-mailed over specific infornation on the ski. Here is the part concerning the larger version. ONE SIZE FITS MOST SKIERS - In a slalom course, everyone needs to make the same radius turn, irrespective of their height/weight. We have designed a 65.25” length for skiers from 110lbs to 210lbs. Nick Parsons at 6’5” – 205lbs and Regina Jaquess at 5'4" - 130lbs both used the same length 65.25" ski at this year's Masters. For the skiers 210lbs + a 66.75" model will be available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporting Member Than_Bogan Posted August 6, 2012 Author Supporting Member Share Posted August 6, 2012 Fedex estimates Thursday 8/9 arrival for mine. Not ideal timing; first set on it might end up the following Tuesday 8/14. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller gjohnson Posted August 6, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 6, 2012 The Nano-One was on the top of the podium twice at the Midwest Regionals. B3 & M3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller teammalibu Posted August 6, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 6, 2012 Got it today ride it tomorrow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klundell Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 I'm supposed to get mine tomorrow. I'll report after a few sets on it for all you 36mph ballers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller gjohnson Posted August 7, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 7, 2012 Mine should arrive tomorrow as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ The_MS Posted August 7, 2012 Baller_ Share Posted August 7, 2012 Got mine and have 3 sets on it. It gets better with each set. Stay tuned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Boody Posted August 7, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 7, 2012 @MS, what are you coming off of? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ The_MS Posted August 7, 2012 Baller_ Share Posted August 7, 2012 @Boody Mainly a Strada but I have tried the Fusion, Monza, 9960, A2, S2 and MPD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller gjohnson Posted August 7, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 7, 2012 @MS what is the length measured with the tips? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ The_MS Posted August 7, 2012 Baller_ Share Posted August 7, 2012 I did not find out but jaws on my dial Goode caliper is 6.732 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporting Member Than_Bogan Posted August 7, 2012 Author Supporting Member Share Posted August 7, 2012 Have folks been finding they want to adjust it? I have often found factory settings are best for me, even though they don't always feel that way at first. I'm hoping for this to be true on this ski, because it takes so much time to make and test adjustments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Stevie Boy Posted August 7, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 7, 2012 Help ! I must be raving mad, just spent mega bucks on a ski and I have no idea whether it,s going to suit me or not, if her indoors finds out, I,m a deaden ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Boody Posted August 8, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 8, 2012 Where are you guys putting your boots? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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