Baller Ed_Johnson Posted September 28, 2012 Baller Share Posted September 28, 2012 HO just released their 2013 Web-Site with product line and videos for each model...The info on the A3 sounds good to me..Sure has been working well for Willy with 2@43, plus winning Diablo...Can't wait to try one. HOSports.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bogboy Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 Ed, and switch from your s2? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted September 29, 2012 Administrators Share Posted September 29, 2012 Willy looked really good at Diablo Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Become a Supporting Member or make a One-time Donation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Ed_Johnson Posted September 29, 2012 Author Baller Share Posted September 29, 2012 @bogboy: I really like what they have done with the A3. Should be significantly better than the A2. Got a good look at Will's ski here in Orlando...The S2 is what I consider the BEST "training" ski ever. Since I lost vision in my left eye, I had to change my focal points considerably. The S2 was perfect for this since it allowed you to try a lot of different things and not punish you...Things have been progressing well, and plan to look for a short line tournament ski for next season. The considerations are the AM33, N1, and A3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ForrestGump Posted September 29, 2012 Baller Share Posted September 29, 2012 I talked to Willy briefly about the A3. He said the A3 moves out and back in more fluidly than the A2. The A2 was less work than the A1 for him, but the A1 gave him a better platform to stand on as the ski was going outbound. So the A3 was designed to give that anchored platform going out and then to come back under the rope and roll into angle and lean automatically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bogboy Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 Ed, good luck your tournaments. Second day free skiing on my new s2. Wonderful ski. I will ski it on a course this week. I already maid all 6 buoys a couple weeks ago on a demo s2, so I know I can do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Dirt Posted October 10, 2012 Baller Share Posted October 10, 2012 Picked up the new A3 today. The plan is to ride it tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Dirt Posted October 10, 2012 Baller Share Posted October 10, 2012 34 MPH version Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaredH20 Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 So is the A3 available for sale now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted October 10, 2012 Administrators Share Posted October 10, 2012 @Dirt Nice Photoshop work. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Become a Supporting Member or make a One-time Donation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Dirt Posted October 10, 2012 Baller Share Posted October 10, 2012 @Horton I know. I am not very good at Photoshop. There is no 34 mph edition. I really do have an A3. It is not in production yet. They are supposed to be coming out by the end of the month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MrJones Posted October 10, 2012 Baller Share Posted October 10, 2012 I actually texted Willy after Diablo. That is the best I have seen him look in years. He has obviously done well over the past few seasons, but to me it always looked hard. When I skied with him years ago he was initally on a Sixam (or maybe a Mapple) and then the 9500. He was powerful, but also very smooth. On the Monza, A1, and A2 he ran a lot of buoys, but to me it always looked like work. If this ski works like it looked at Diablo look out. He may have a big 2013. Dirt. You should go back to the Vice and stay out of MM. :) I am actually interested to hear what you think of the A3 after riding for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Dirt Posted October 10, 2012 Baller Share Posted October 10, 2012 @Mr.Jones I'll let you know. I only have it for a couple days. I just wanted to see how it felt it in comparison to the A2. I watched the A3 video yesterday and had to try it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Not_The_Pug Posted October 10, 2012 Baller Share Posted October 10, 2012 @dirt You want to ski this Saturday? :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Dirt Posted October 10, 2012 Baller Share Posted October 10, 2012 @Krlee I have to work Saturday. Thanks for the offer. I just took my first A3 ride. Great ski! It creates space at the buoy. 28,28,32,32,35,38,1.5@39,3@39. I think I need to move the binding and adjust the fin a bit but it feels good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skidawg Posted October 10, 2012 Baller Share Posted October 10, 2012 Is it the next greatest ski ever? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Dirt Posted October 10, 2012 Baller Share Posted October 10, 2012 It may be but its hard to tell with only one ride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jdarwin Posted October 10, 2012 Baller Share Posted October 10, 2012 @Dirt - Save your money - just wait until Horton gets one and you can "borrow" it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Not_The_Pug Posted October 10, 2012 Baller Share Posted October 10, 2012 @dirt I may have to get a hold of Greg for a test ski or just borrow that one from you. Steph might be pissed that I'm talking about a new ski again. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jimbrake Posted October 10, 2012 Baller Share Posted October 10, 2012 @krlee - don't let me try it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller lakeaustinskier Posted October 11, 2012 Baller Share Posted October 11, 2012 Help! I’m confused. How radically different is the A3 from the A2? HO says that the A3 is also available in a Junior version. Does this mean that HO is saying that the A3 fits all skiers at all speeds? Does this imply that a 34 mph ski such as the S2 is just a marketing ploy? I’m currently skiing on a S2 and have really improved my skiing this year. I tried an A2 and it just didn’t feel as good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller webbdawg99 Posted October 11, 2012 Baller Share Posted October 11, 2012 It seems that the A2 may have missed the mark. It was basically a modification of the A1, but feedback has been mixed. However, the S2 has had some excellent feedback. As far as the A3 goes, it's supposed to be a completely different ski. According to what HO is saying, it's almost like they started fresh instead of modifying the A2. I think marketing wise, they may have been better off to get away from calling this the A3 if it's truly not a modification of the A2. I think when they say a junior version, they are simply referring to length of the ski. Remember, B3 skis at 36 mph and is considered a junior division. If you like the S2, stick with it. I would expect the A3 to be very different from the A2 and S2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Killer Posted October 11, 2012 Baller Share Posted October 11, 2012 The A2 skis very similar to the A1 & looks almost identical. Ive loved both skis and they keep getting better! A2 is an improvement, not as punishing and you dont have to completely stomp on the front foot in the preturn Like the 1. Im a year behind so in 2014 will ride the A3 :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ForrestGump Posted October 11, 2012 Baller Share Posted October 11, 2012 A3 is vastly different. It's a constant rocker ski like a Warp instead of a 3, 4, or 5 stage rocker. So essentially, there is no flat spot, just a continuous curve when sitting static. @lakeaustinskier I would not assume that a Jr A3 is an identical shape to the regular A3. A lot of the jr skis are earlier designs that they just name as the current ski. How the A3 jr is positioned will remain to be determined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Dirt Posted October 11, 2012 Baller Share Posted October 11, 2012 From what I saw this year, the A2 was on the podium more than any other ski. It was definetly one of the most popular skis ever. IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller lakeaustinskier Posted October 11, 2012 Baller Share Posted October 11, 2012 I forgot about B3. Good point. I also saw a lot of A2's on the podium this year which led me to try one. Maybe I should have just started a new topic asking if a 34 mph ski is really necessary or just a bunch of marketing hype. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Dirt Posted October 11, 2012 Baller Share Posted October 11, 2012 The A3 fin block was loose during the first two rides. Took a set in 15 mph crosswind today. This is a great ski. I highly recommend a try. It feels even better than the A2, which I love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MrJones Posted October 12, 2012 Baller Share Posted October 12, 2012 Interesting comment from Shane about the continuous rocker. The Nano One is basically a bannana which I was initially concerned about. In the old days a ski like that would not have gone across course well. It seems that you can now have your cake and eat it too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Skoot1123 Posted October 12, 2012 Baller Share Posted October 12, 2012 @Mr. Jones - on the RaDaR 2013 thread someone mentioned the layup on the ski and how that has been "redefined" from what was used in the past. Maybe the new layup's on ski's are provided the abilty for a "banana" ski to still get across course well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted October 12, 2012 Administrators Share Posted October 12, 2012 @lakeaustinskier & @webbdawg99 I think both of you guys are smoking crack. The A2 is not really a lot like the A1. Not in the ways that matter. They do not ski the same. You may not like one or both but they are not close to being the same ski. S2 is a whole other thought process. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Become a Supporting Member or make a One-time Donation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ForrestGump Posted October 12, 2012 Baller Share Posted October 12, 2012 I agree, I didn't think the A2 skied at all like the A1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller webbdawg99 Posted October 12, 2012 Baller Share Posted October 12, 2012 @Horton Smoking crack? At what point did I say they were a lot alike? My comment was that "according to HO" the A2 was a modification of the A1. If making that statement makes me appear to be "smoking crack".....take it up with Dave Wingerter and the HO marketing team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted October 12, 2012 Administrators Share Posted October 12, 2012 @webbdog99 Sorry if i sounded grumpy. As admin around here I should watch my tone better. I do totally disagree when you say that the A2 missed the mark but that is my opinion. Yes the A2 came from the A1. Most skis start as something before it. Most skis are an evolution of a previous skis. Yes there are some skis that look to started as a fresh sheet of paper but most do not. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Become a Supporting Member or make a One-time Donation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Phil2360 Posted October 12, 2012 Baller Share Posted October 12, 2012 Anyone Down-Under got any updates on when 2013 stocks are starting to ship down here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MrJones Posted October 12, 2012 Baller Share Posted October 12, 2012 Stop hold'n back OB. Let us know how you really feel... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jedgell Posted October 13, 2012 Baller Share Posted October 13, 2012 @OB I heard a couple weeks ago that Terry is no longer with Goode. A reliable source. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SocalWaterSki Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 Hmmm looks like a reason to upgrade... I really need to try one first though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Killer Posted October 13, 2012 Baller Share Posted October 13, 2012 There's always a reason to upgrade. I said the A1 and a2 are very similar. My rational Isnt microscopic or precise, but it is practical, something some of you are obviously lacking. As an intermediate skier i was instantly able to Ski exactly like i was used to on tHe a1: & comfortable at that. Ive skied on a number of different skis recently and most feel drastically different either in the first few sets or even later down the test Cycle. A2 for me coming off A1 was instant comfort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Dirt Posted October 13, 2012 Baller Share Posted October 13, 2012 @jdarwin I like your plan. @Killer I knew what you meant. I believe the A3 will feel comfortable to you, coming off of the A2. It is a very different ski as Horton pointed out but it is an upgrade. I did not miss a pass until one of my most difficult ones during my first ride on it. You never know which ski will be "The One" for you because there are many different styles and preferences but I think this ski will be very popular and successful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Dirt Posted October 15, 2012 Baller Share Posted October 15, 2012 67" A3 So far we have tried: 29 3/4 binding 2.512, 6.850, .75, 7 degrees Felt better at 29 5/8, 2.504, 6.842, .80, 7.5* but offside not coming around all the way. Felt best at 29 3/4, 2.504, 6.848, .78, 7.5* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaredH20 Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 any one ridden the 2011 Strada (Red one) and ridden the A3? Interested in the comparison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Dirt Posted October 15, 2012 Baller Share Posted October 15, 2012 I rode a vice for several months and rode matteovargas' gry/red 11 strada but only a few rides. I prefered his strada to the vice and the A2 & A3 to the strada. The strada is a great ski and was less effort to ride. The A2 & A3 got better angle and tracked outbound better for me. The A2 worked better when I skied aggressively. The A3 felt like it may not require as much aggression. The tip rode higher on the A3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ktm300 Posted October 15, 2012 Baller Share Posted October 15, 2012 Dirt. One of the things that I liked about the A2 is the tip wanting to carve back to the center. Do you find the A3 to have a looser tip; less automatic carve? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller mwetskier Posted October 15, 2012 Baller Share Posted October 15, 2012 i wonder if the tip of the a3 rides higher because its more curved up like the nano1 tip is not because the tail rides deeper do to the continuos rocker? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Dirt Posted October 15, 2012 Baller Share Posted October 15, 2012 @ktm300 the A3 carves all the way around and gets great angle. When I say the tip is riding higher, I don't mean tip rise at the end of the turn. The tip is not "looser or less automatic." This ski gets better angle, easier than the A2. It does not have the abrupt finish to the turn. It carves around and smoothly transitions into great angle and holds it outbound. The result is more space and a much earlier line. I don't have the experience Horton has at reviewing skis and don't ride anywhere near as many. I look forward to him riding it. He will give you a much better description. If you have the opportunity, I highly recommend you try it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Dirt Posted October 16, 2012 Baller Share Posted October 16, 2012 I took two more rides on the A3 yesterday. I am not sure if anyone is interested. These numbers felt the best to me. Keep in mind, I am on rubber bindings and only going 34 mph. 67 inch A3 Front Binding 29 5/8 2.506, 6.849 tips, .78 dft flat with ski standing on the tip, 7 degrees wing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller bishop8950 Posted October 16, 2012 Baller Share Posted October 16, 2012 No one cares because you, Willy and Bob Lapoint are the only ones with an A3 in their hands. How did you get one anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted October 16, 2012 Administrators Share Posted October 16, 2012 I talked to someone from HO today that had that same question Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Become a Supporting Member or make a One-time Donation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Dirt Posted October 16, 2012 Baller Share Posted October 16, 2012 They will be out in a couple weeks and warmer climates will be riding them. I told them I was friends with Kevin Bishop and Horton. Usually I just "borrow" the ski. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ForrestGump Posted October 16, 2012 Baller Share Posted October 16, 2012 Had you really told anyone you were friends with Horton, they would have sent you a broken CDX instead of that A3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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