Administrators Horton Posted June 20, 2013 Administrators Share Posted June 20, 2013 http://www.ballofspray.com/images/2013/conquer/Conquer.jpg In a field of skis that all look and perform similar, the O'Brien Conquer stands out like Metallica at a jazz festival. The silhouette of the Conquer is made up of bold straight lines. The forebody is broad and straight. The tip is angular. The Conquer is blissfully different. The Conquer’s width and flat rocker equates to an unusually stable ski that produces crazy width and speed. Perhaps no other ski can get a skier from one side of the boat to the other as fast as the Conquer. The attitude of the ski is relatively flat and very consistent heading to the first wake. From the wakes to the ball, the Conquer gets wider and earlier in front of the ball than any other ski tested to date. The ski flows out and in front of the ball while maintaining extraordinary stability. The fact that the ski is so comfortable underfoot at this point allows the skier to be in better than normal position. Off Side turns on the Conquest are sharp and fast. The ski snaps around from wide as opposed to carving back. Sometimes the ski needs to be pushed a little to initiate the rotation and then it simply changes direction all at once. Pushing this ski too hard at Off Side will result in a radical turn and a frantic exit from the ball line. http://www.ballofspray.com/images/2013/conquer/Conquer-7.jpg On Side turns are more flowing than Off Side turns. The ski is very sensitive to skier weight distribution as well as fin and binding settings. With moderate front foot pressure, the Conquer will turn smoothly when skiing at easier passes, but at the limit, the ski will turn slow if the skier does not move forward over the ski. http://www.ballofspray.com/images/2013/conquer/Conquer-12.jpg Quirks: When skiing in my comfort zone, the Conquer is a favorite. The ski makes it easier for me to be in a better than normal position off the second wake. I find that I hold on with two hands longer off the second wake on this ski. The space and width are truly astounding. I dropped 28 off as a starting pass on the Conquer and hardly missed a 35 off during the all the test rides. http://www.ballofspray.com/images/2013/conquer/Conquer-9.jpg When I begin to run out of talent at 38 off and start to make mistakes, this ski’s need for extra precision and front foot pressure at the On Side turn cost me buoys. My mistakes equate to too much speed going to On Side, and the Conquer simply will not turn On Side with extra water speed and not enough front foot pressure. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller estrom Posted June 20, 2013 Baller Share Posted June 20, 2013 It's hard to get over how big/wide that ski looks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeSkiAvantTout Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 My D3 is a tad too tiring for the wet choppy cold water I'm usually on in England, (ski year round) and given I don't run the course (like to though one day) and don't want a BIg Daddy type embarrassment this big beast looks ideal. A lot of your reviews make the skis sound pretty similiar to anyone but a short-line big hitter (no offence that's the audience they're aimed at) but this one is clearly different so goes to top of list, cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller drew Posted June 20, 2013 Baller Share Posted June 20, 2013 The 64.5" and 67.5 are more evolved (better) than the 66... I love the 67.5 Conquer, but prefer the more traditional Endo shape. My brother Doug chose the 67.5 Conquer after trying just about every option on the market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Chef23 Posted June 20, 2013 Baller Share Posted June 20, 2013 Given the width of the ski I would think most people would wind up on the 66 or the 64.5 inch Conquer I am surprised they didn't start with the 66 and scale from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller gregy Posted June 20, 2013 Baller Share Posted June 20, 2013 @chef23 thats what I would of thought but Drew's brother is not a big guy and on a 67.5. From the videos I don't think turning is an issue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted June 20, 2013 Author Administrators Share Posted June 20, 2013 @Chef23 I do not know that the skis are scaled. A lot of skis are redesigned from size to size. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller otisg Posted June 20, 2013 Baller Share Posted June 20, 2013 I finally skied mine 67.5" and agree with this review - the ski skis great. I set the fin up with the exactly same numbers as my Green-6 AM which were what the factory recommended and I never saw a reason to change. The Conquer is a little quicker in the initiation phase - I think... I, also think that the ski does what I really need it to do which is make it a little easier for a big geezer (225 Lbs.) to get out of the water but one who likes a smaller ski, once up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swerveit Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 Anyone got the binding numbers for a 66?? Thanks in advance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller otisg Posted August 22, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 22, 2013 swerveit - I started in the middle but might move them a little forward because this ski does not slow down as quickly as the green 6-AM in the pre-turn. FWIW- I used the same fin #'s as my Six-AM and the ski skis just as well... I am, thrilled with the way the ski comes up and out of the water - great for short Lake setups Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller A_B Posted August 22, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 22, 2013 @horton, how wide is the ski? Is it like the Wide Ride or a Mid ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swerveit Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 Thanks however I need the actual distance from tail binding measurement..I can't believe that they don't have historical/factory settings on the website :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ForrestGump Posted August 22, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 22, 2013 29 3/8 is where Horton was riding. Think he was on 66. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted August 22, 2013 Author Administrators Share Posted August 22, 2013 I was on 66 it is mid ish Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swerveit Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 Thanks @shaneh !! As a person who historically has always had authodox shaped skis looking down at it I did panic at first.. Jump ski sprang to mind. Think I'd freak out on a wide ride. 8 passes down - I don't want to jinx it, and I'm waiting for the catch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted August 22, 2013 Author Administrators Share Posted August 22, 2013 I think this is where I ended up 29 3/8 .7275 2.500 6.838 Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller A_B Posted August 22, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 22, 2013 Come on @Horton, no review is complete without surface area.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ForrestGump Posted August 22, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 22, 2013 Size matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller rfa Posted July 15, 2014 Baller Share Posted July 15, 2014 Also testing a Conquer...a couple of questions please...O'Brien size/weight charts not helpful... at about 140-145 lbs would the 64.5 be the right size? @Drew says 66 not as good as 64 and 68, so i'm hoping the 64 would be the right size for me. Also O'Brien's fin numbers are: L=6.730; D=2.495; DFT=0.720; Boots=28.25". anyone can confirm or suggest other #'s? I'm also testing an 65.5 Endo and cannot get the fin to the L # unless i modify it as it bumps up against the screws on the fin block (I posted on separate thread regarding the Endo). Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted July 16, 2014 Author Administrators Share Posted July 16, 2014 @rfa Everyone tells me that the 66 is the ugly duckling of the range. I ran ran some 35s on the 67 last Sunday and I think it is a pretty good ski. For your size I think the small one should work. I am trying to get some numbers.... for you and me. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller rfa Posted July 16, 2014 Baller Share Posted July 16, 2014 Thank you!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNh2oskier Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 @Horton whats the ugly duckling comment mean? I'm not sure I follow, I can be a little slow at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted July 17, 2014 Author Administrators Share Posted July 17, 2014 the 66 is not the best of the three sizes in the range. The 66 is a good ski but I believe the other two are better. This is not uncommon it actually happens with many of the top skis in the industry Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNh2oskier Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Thanks, that's what I thought you were saying but wanted to confirm. Guy on SIA has the 2013 66s and 64s for 275 brand new old stock, and I was thinking about picking one up, but I think I will pass. I dont need another distraction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted July 17, 2014 Author Administrators Share Posted July 17, 2014 @TNh2oskier ooooo you should get the 64 and send it to me. I want to try that thing. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller rfa Posted July 17, 2014 Baller Share Posted July 17, 2014 got the 64...will try later today hopefully... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller aupatking Posted November 28, 2014 Baller Share Posted November 28, 2014 I still can't find a size chart for this thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swerveit Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 I got a 66 and I'm (189 lbs/85kg) I ski at 34mph, tried the 67 and felt like an oil tanker, couldn't turn it. 66 feels great. @aupatking, what do you weigh? what speed do you ski at/line length? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller aupatking Posted November 28, 2014 Baller Share Posted November 28, 2014 That's perfect, I'm high 180's to low 190's and ski at 34mph between 22 and 32 off. Thanks for that info. I want to play with one of these over the winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jayski Posted November 28, 2014 Baller Share Posted November 28, 2014 If anyone is interested in a 67" I have one with two rides on it for super cheap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller aupatking Posted November 28, 2014 Baller Share Posted November 28, 2014 @jayski pm sent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swerveit Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 @aupatking I just thought I ski on cooler water than most stateside, which makes a little difference. I'm not 100% sure the fin was money but the 67 felt big immediately out of the water, the 66 felt spot on. id say try both as the both I tried felt surprisingly different. Ran 32 on the 66, had to drop a rope length for the 67 and still was a nightmare. historically I've always preferred bigger skis, this was the first time I've gone smaller as the surface area is fairly large. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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