Baller gsm_peter Posted May 21, 2014 Baller Share Posted May 21, 2014 Ski level is in this Poll defined as: - Complete pass (all six). - Short lines at 34 mph. - Training or competition. - Can be repeated a few times during the season It is allowed to round up slightly to fit into the poll alternatives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJVDMZN Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Training to get there, beginner balls - 18m @ 46km/h Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller gsm_peter Posted May 21, 2014 Author Baller Share Posted May 21, 2014 @ jjvdmzn Did you vote? Keep up the work. Was there most of last summer. Once you are consistent at 46 the 49 will soon be within reach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller LeonL Posted May 21, 2014 Baller Share Posted May 21, 2014 Actually I'm so old that my max is 32 MPH, however I can run 32off at 34 mph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller GaryWilkinson Posted May 21, 2014 Baller Share Posted May 21, 2014 Me too, in the old category, I remember Wayne grimditch, George Athans and Sammy Duval so running -32 at a soft 34mph is a good day in my life in a 2.5 month season that btw hasn't started yet! Where's that global warming thing? Still snow at cottage! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Skoot1123 Posted May 21, 2014 Baller Share Posted May 21, 2014 Am at 32 off right now - hoping to up that to running 2 or 3 at 35 off this year. Just need more water time! Might be able to ski this week....first of this year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MattP Posted May 21, 2014 Baller Share Posted May 21, 2014 Hmm no 36mph option.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJVDMZN Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 @gsm_peter I can't vote, I'm not making a complete pass (all 6 Balls) yet, but improving.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swerv_6 Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 WHAT ABOUT US 36MPH SKIERS @gsm_peter....... NO LOVE?????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller gsm_peter Posted May 21, 2014 Author Baller Share Posted May 21, 2014 Sorry I missed out 32 and 36. My assumption was that most train on 34. Maybe compensate with one line length equals one speed increment. Option 10 should be seen as 34 and better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skier2788 Posted May 21, 2014 Baller Share Posted May 21, 2014 Run mid 35 off at 36 MPh consitantly. So I chose the 38 off at 34 group. Pretty confident if I went at 34 MPH I would run 35 90% of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporting Member Than_Bogan Posted May 21, 2014 Supporting Member Share Posted May 21, 2014 @skier2788. Yes, that is very likely. I was exactly where you are when I transitioned to 34 mph, and immediately began running -35 most of the time (including my first two attempts of my life, which were at a tournament). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skier2788 Posted May 21, 2014 Baller Share Posted May 21, 2014 @than_Bogan I actually trained that way last year. Ran -32 @36 then -35@34. Eventually I stepped it back up to 36. Messing around one day I somehow ran -38@34. It was really ugly. I think slowing down to learn shorter line lengths helps. I can get my mind around a different visual picture if I am not freaking out about how fast I am going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller chris_logan Posted May 21, 2014 Baller Share Posted May 21, 2014 Well I do train sometimes at 34 mid season, though it's mostly working on mechanics. I usually work on things at one shorter line length than I see in my hardest pass at 36. Seems to make the normal set at 36 click a little better that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller drewski32 Posted May 21, 2014 Baller Share Posted May 21, 2014 During the middle of the season I can run -28 at 36mph, Mid or early -32. At 34mph I can run deep into -32. If I tried it more at 34mph I could run it. Why no options to for 36? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporting Member Than_Bogan Posted May 21, 2014 Supporting Member Share Posted May 21, 2014 @skier2788 WOW on that -38. I personally found 34/-38 was harder than 36/-35. Not a ton harder, but definitely harder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kfennell Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Its easier to run short lines at slower speeds when you are very strong I find, like @skier2788 is. You can kind of soak up the slack hit and get fired off to the other ball. That is the case for me at least when I slow down and try 32/35. I find all line lengths at 34 to be easier then their 36mph one length longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ MISkier Posted May 21, 2014 Baller_ Share Posted May 21, 2014 The comparison between 34 mph and 36 mph in official scoring is basically 6 buoys difference (run 32 off at 36 mph = run 35 off at 34 mph). It matches my score differences as well. I am basically a line length shorter at 34 mph than I am at 36 mph - almost 6 buoys exactly. The worst slalom equipment I own is between my ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skier2788 Posted May 21, 2014 Baller Share Posted May 21, 2014 @Than_Bogan @kfennell I have to agree with him the only way I got through it was taking huge slack hits and just hanging on. Do it once to say you can but If I did it everyday my arms would fall off. I have run 35 off at 36 probly 50 to 60 timesand my PB is 3@38. I feel 38 off at 34 is slightly harder than 35 at 36. The six bouy difference between 34 and 36 is true up to a certain line let and then it is less. In my opinion. Otherwise why don't guys like mapple or rogers run deep 43@34 when they can run mid deep 41 at 36. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporting Member Than_Bogan Posted May 21, 2014 Supporting Member Share Posted May 21, 2014 Yep, there's no doubt in my mind that the difference in buoy count at 34 vs. 36 depends on where you are in the progression. In the neighborhood of 36/-32 and 34/-35, it's pretty much right on 6 buoys. But elsewhere it may be more or less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller cragginshred Posted May 21, 2014 Baller Share Posted May 21, 2014 There should be another poll that asks who skis 34 or 36mph beyond 32 off that does not have blown out discs in their spine (over 40 of course)! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporting Member Than_Bogan Posted May 21, 2014 Supporting Member Share Posted May 21, 2014 discs are over-rated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller 6balls Posted May 21, 2014 Baller Share Posted May 21, 2014 @skier2788 I was right where you are in M2 running -32 @ 36 mph consistently and only ran -35 @ -36 once. First tourney in M3 @ 34 mph smoked -35 and had -38 going like it was a joke but over-turned 4 and ejected going toward 5. Thought I was about to own -38 @ 34 moving forward. Strangely (really not so strange to those of us who live this purple nightmare) took another 5 years to run a meaningful number of -38 passes in a season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skier2788 Posted May 21, 2014 Baller Share Posted May 21, 2014 @6balls first full year in M2 so I am hoping to start beating up on the purple loop a lot more this summer. Started running 35 some last year have taken five shots at 35 this year. Average 3 but did get 5 the last time I tried it. I am feeling pretty good about that. It is the middle of May and water is 58 degrees. By the end of summer my goal is to be consistent at 35 and getting 3 @38 regularly. Pretty big goals but I feel like I can do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller SkiJay Posted May 22, 2014 Baller Share Posted May 22, 2014 And there you have it, statistical proof that there are as many skiers running -38 as all skiers running -22 and longer and slower combined! =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Baller GOODESkier Posted May 22, 2014 Baller Share Posted May 22, 2014 Guess I started too late, I never skied any 36. Have run a few 38 off 34 mph passes this summer. Was thinking I would ski an INT League at 36 to see what it was all about. So, if I can run 35 @ 34 mph consistently , it is likely I can run 32 @36 mph as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ MISkier Posted May 22, 2014 Baller_ Share Posted May 22, 2014 @GOODESkier, I would think you would be able to run 32 off at 36 mph. Maybe not cold the first time you try it, but after some slight adjustments. Try it. I actually think 36 mph is more fun and my ski actually rides a little better. The worst slalom equipment I own is between my ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller gsm_peter Posted June 9, 2014 Author Baller Share Posted June 9, 2014 Have forgot to summarize. First a great thanks all for your answers. BOS seems really to be the digital center of very advanced skiers. I feel a bit humble when I realize that most of you are on level I will never be able to reach.Kudos!!! Yepp a special thanks for providing us LL so much support and efforts helping us to improve! Feeling a bit lonely I hope some more LL skiers will keep on posting. We can maybe share some AHA feelings on technique that most BOS'ers most likely have forgotten loooong time ago. =0) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Razorskier1 Posted June 9, 2014 Baller Share Posted June 9, 2014 I have one lifetime 39 off practice pass, but it wasn't "straight down the line" (was on the second try) and I haven't been able to repeat, so I think -38 is the right answer for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Texas6 Posted June 9, 2014 Baller Share Posted June 9, 2014 I'm stuck at 35 for now - but not for long Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller RazorRoss3 Posted June 11, 2014 Baller Share Posted June 11, 2014 Well, 36 miles an hour, still a college boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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