Baller eddie_roberts_jr Posted June 28, 2016 Author Baller Share Posted June 28, 2016 Steven Neveu is on a stock 2016 67" Vapor Lithium. He is 6'5" and weighs 205. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Chef23 Posted June 28, 2016 Baller Share Posted June 28, 2016 I wish I weighed 205 and I am 6' tall. That is long and lean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller UWSkier Posted June 28, 2016 Baller Share Posted June 28, 2016 Holy crap. He's only 205? Seems much more thick than that in person. We're the same height but I have 50 lbs on him. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporting Member Than_Bogan Posted June 28, 2016 Supporting Member Share Posted June 28, 2016 Just did a little math (shocking, I know) and if I scale myself (in 3D of course) to 6'5 I'd weigh less than 195. So Neveu's not quite in the beanpole club! :smile: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Zog Posted June 28, 2016 Members Share Posted June 28, 2016 @Chris Rossi Admittedly I didn't read this whole thread but can you tell me what size you would recommend for me? 195lbs, 34mph, 35 / 38' off skier. I'm ready to retire the Nano One! Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jdarwin Posted June 28, 2016 Baller Share Posted June 28, 2016 @Zog - 68" is the ticket. Get in touch with @skidawg - he can help you out!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Texas6 Posted June 28, 2016 Baller Share Posted June 28, 2016 So Neveu is on a 67" at 205? @Zog, I'm on a 67 @ 190lbs and 5'11" and it feels perfect for me personally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skier2788 Posted June 28, 2016 Baller Share Posted June 28, 2016 @Zog I aM 6 foot 2 215 pounds. I ski at 36 into 38 off. 68 in. Skis like a dream. I think it would fit you well at 34 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MrJones Posted June 28, 2016 Baller Share Posted June 28, 2016 From what I see of skiers on the Vapor, I think the recommendation would be to go up a size if you are a "tweener". The ski will turn so that's not an issue. Why not go for more forgiveness and less work?? (Of course I defer to the actual Radar guys on here who designed and build the thing!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Chris Rossi Posted June 28, 2016 Baller Share Posted June 28, 2016 @Zog I pm'd you directly but thought I would post here. At 195, you fall into the 68 size range. But because you ski at a high level, your technique is solid enough to run a 67. My gut is saying 67 for you especially coming off a Nano One which is rumored to be a slow ski that requires a lot of work (I have never skied it so have so clue). Sorry I can't give you a definitive answer.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Andre Posted June 28, 2016 Baller Share Posted June 28, 2016 FWIW Here what i wrote to Chris yesterday and his answer as of this morning...YMMV! Hi Chris Thinking of a 16 Vapor lithium.Not sure about ski sizing,i seems to be in between sizes. Was on a 67 2010 Strada for he last 5 years (great ski!) now skiing a rental Mapple 6.0 from a friend. 52 years young,34 mph mid 35 off on a good day,6'1.5'' ,195 lbs but should finish the season around 188 lbs. Not a very technical skier, more of a hack... :) Should i go 67 or 68'' ? T.I.A. André My gut says 67. More turntable at your hardest passes and this ski is pretty quick. Edit:(Ooops,posted this before seing Chris's reply...) My ski finish in 16.95 but my ass is out of tolerance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Andre Posted June 28, 2016 Baller Share Posted June 28, 2016 I will add that it's great to get feedback froma pro skier and the designer of the ski!!! Thanks Chris! My ski finish in 16.95 but my ass is out of tolerance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Chris Rossi Posted June 28, 2016 Baller Share Posted June 28, 2016 @Andre As I wrote earlier, there are merits to going either way with sizing. Wish I had a more definitive answer but time/experience has shown me to be honest and humble about the matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfriis Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 Yesterday I tried a 68" (first time ever on a Radar) - I have been on a Quest 67 (2013) - I'm 6' 180-185 lbs. usually I ski 2-3@35 off (34 mph)- The ski felt a bit loose in the begining (higher in the water) and I had to run it a lot different from the quest.... after a few passes I learned to initiate the turn a bit later - and be a lot more on the front (easy on this ski) - the ski turns ultra fast - almost to fast - I really had to koncentrate on getting quickly in "stack position" after the turn and the ski feels a bit "loose" into the wake..... should I try the 67 to get a deeper riding ski/feeling (as I have always preferred) or should I try to get used to the bigger ski which has no problem turning. I'm asking because its quite difficult to get a 67' demo here (I have to buy one). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Jordan Posted June 29, 2016 Baller Share Posted June 29, 2016 @sfriis what are your settings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfriis Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 @Jordan I borrowed the ski and did not check the settings - he never changed the settings after receiving the ski, so should be factory settings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kfennell Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 To add to the sizing talk at 5'11" 210 skiing into -35@36 the 67 is the right size for me and I have tried all three sizes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markchilcutt Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 @sfriis I am 5' 9" 180-185 34 mph 35 off is my tough pass and ski a 67. You need a 67 in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Deanoski Posted June 29, 2016 Baller Share Posted June 29, 2016 I'm 6'1" 195 ski 34mph -35some times -38 and ski the 67 and it does not feel small. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller gregy Posted June 29, 2016 Baller Share Posted June 29, 2016 I'm 6'2" 170lb on a 67" 34mph. Its gotten me around 3 @32off in practice. I haven't tried any other size but it feels good. Turns tight and quick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller gavski Posted June 30, 2016 Baller Share Posted June 30, 2016 Awesome..were you running your previous Rini setup or the Rossi numbers above? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skidawg Posted July 1, 2016 Baller Share Posted July 1, 2016 9 rounds of Mississippi swerving this weekend---& Hopadilla! RadarLove! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller 6balls Posted July 1, 2016 Baller Share Posted July 1, 2016 @ob1 that's cool...we are not getting any younger tying or exceeding PB's can be tough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
block Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 I'm 5'10 , 208 and am on a 68". I've tried The Rossi #,s and they were ok,,tried Horton,s (.748)dft great on side, bad offside for me. I then tried the new Rossi #,s (.755) dft. The ski felt unstable and turney to me. Last night I tried the Rini #'s and really liked them, I had a lot of space before the balls on both sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MrJones Posted July 1, 2016 Baller Share Posted July 1, 2016 To each his own. I have tried to go forward with the fin/bindings and longer 3x now mainly because that's where others seem to be. I just feel better a little farther back and shorter. I don't know why I keep confusing myself. It's not like it doesn't work where I've had it. Need to stop messing around and just SKI!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller mbabiash Posted July 1, 2016 Baller Share Posted July 1, 2016 What are Rinis 68 numbers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller PSM Posted July 1, 2016 Baller Share Posted July 1, 2016 That's great data @OB1. Would you, or someone, happen to have the same equivalent settings for a 66"? That is Rini, Rossi old, and Rossi new. I'm sure they are buried in one of the Vapor threads (which I've tried to follow), but my forum searching skills are limited. Thanks in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller mbabiash Posted July 1, 2016 Baller Share Posted July 1, 2016 First set last night on Rossi new numbers and it felt pretty good. Offside turn was too much for me. I'm going to try boots forward 1/8 today and then I'll try rini numbers. I ran right up to my PB on the first set and I had some big mistakes at 2 ball every pass but still ran the pass. If I can clean up the offside, I think I will love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChadW Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 @PSM 2016 Vapor 66" Rossi Original - 29", 2.465, 6.940, 0.733, 9 Rossi Alternate 29", 2.460, 6.960, 0.735, 9 Rossi PM'd these to me after I told him I felt like the ski was sticking at the finish of my onside turn - 29.25", 2.455, 6.975, 0.745, 9 Rini - 29.25", 2.45, 7, 0.72, 9 I'm currently running these numbers, close to @SkiJay's numbers: 29 3/8", 2.455, 6.975, 0.732, 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller PSM Posted July 1, 2016 Baller Share Posted July 1, 2016 Awesome @ChadW thanks. Very much appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller UWSkier Posted July 1, 2016 Baller Share Posted July 1, 2016 So if you get lean locked on this thing, is it Vapor lock? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spicoli Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 I rode my first vapor about 5 passes 1 22 and 3 at 28. 68 new rossi numbers .little to snappy on on side but it was managable. and no finish or angle off 1( off side )I get to 3 and can't get it to finish with angle. We thought maybe need move bindings forward .at first it seemed like it was on top and seeking at pullout and in the coast for gate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller BlueSki Posted July 1, 2016 Baller Share Posted July 1, 2016 I started with Rini numbers that came from PerfSki, and they worked well. While I was skiing with Stisher, I let Rini know what I was working on with Seth. Rossi helped me get dialed in a bit better. Dang, this ski rocks. #Radarlove Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markchilcutt Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 My daughter PB'ed in all 3 tournament rounds on Saturday. Her previous best was 5.5 @32mph 15 off. Round 1 she went 1@34 Rnd 2 2@34 and finally Rnd 3 3@34. She is loving her new Vapor I have never seen her more confident! I however am stuck at 2 and 3 ball -35 so for now lets just focus on her success!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mopowpow Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 I'm thinking about getting a new Vapor, this is the seventh season on my D3 Z7ST and the hubby thinks it's about time for a change. I love my D3! I am 56, 155, max speed of 32. Would I notice the difference between the Lithium and Graphite? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller BlueSki Posted July 6, 2016 Baller Share Posted July 6, 2016 I asked the same question a few pages back for my wife. She went Lithium and is happy with the choice. She tried a friend's graphite senate and did not see it as enough of a boost over her Lyric. She has already improved her buoy count in the past two weeks. She really loved it once we took the wing off the ski. My son tried it, he is on a 2015 alloy vapor, and he knows the ski he wants after he outgrows the 2015. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Texas6 Posted July 6, 2016 Baller Share Posted July 6, 2016 Ran a tournament set yesterday morn on my 16 Vapor. Went right up the line into 38 for the first time in my life. Having been stuck at 35 off for longer than I care to admit (2 full seasons), at least a half dozen Ricos and even a few 6nc's. This was a breakthrough day. The ski does nothing I don't expect it to, yet does everything well. A quick set with Chet Raley last week, one minor tweak to my gate, and bam.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Chris Rossi Posted July 6, 2016 Baller Share Posted July 6, 2016 Congrats @Texas6! That's a huge accomplishment! @mopowpow I would go lithium and don't look back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller freeski41 Posted July 10, 2016 Baller Share Posted July 10, 2016 Skied with a new friend today who was skiing on an old HO ski. He was struggling to get 3@15', 30mph and I told him not to beat himself too much because the ski he was skiing on was holding him back. I offered him up my 66" Vapor with Radar bindings, he happened to be right foot forward and same weight as me. He immediately ran two back to back full 15' off passes 30 mph....:) Needless to say he loved my Vapor ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfriis Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 got my 67 - tried Rossi # - the ski felt to lively - turned to quickly (tight arc) - Comming from a d3 Quest, this ski takes some time to get used to... tried the rinni # which makes the ski more controlled - however now Im having trouble getting space (34 mph 32 off) Im running almost same @count as on the Quest (3@ 35) - but with much less space. Only had 4 sets, so I need another 6-8 sets to determine if this is my future ski - however at the moment its not - it shall not be harder to run usual @counts. The ski is a top performance ski - no doubt - but we all ski a bit different ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller DanE Posted July 11, 2016 Baller Share Posted July 11, 2016 @sfriis Most skiers would feel a bit rushed @55 mph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfriis Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 @DanE ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller wtrskior Posted July 11, 2016 Baller Share Posted July 11, 2016 @sfriis what are the actual numbers you're running? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfriis Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 @wtrskior Im using 29.8-7.00-2.45-0.73 I'm going to try the "original" settings 6.96 - 2.46 - 0.75 - 9dgr and boot forward 1 hole = 30.1" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Andre Posted July 12, 2016 Baller Share Posted July 12, 2016 I'm in ! Got it just in time for my birthday today (thanks skidawg!) and skied right up to my average ,1.5@35,with out of the box setting. Feel that the ski is faster cross course and way less work that my old Strada wich is 800 sets old. Feeling some good things coming up! My ski finish in 16.95 but my ass is out of tolerance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Deanoski Posted July 12, 2016 Baller Share Posted July 12, 2016 I have tried lots of setting the Rossi setting are great when I'm great fast tight turns, stock # with boots at 29.5 and 29.75 like boot at 29.5 on the stock setting but at my hardest pass -35 I was running 3-4 and running the pass 40% I have not missed a -35 with these setting on a 67" ski fb 29 3/4 73 2,450 6.990 these setting are more controllable for me and the ski stays with me when I make mistakes. I'm 195 6'1" -35 51yrs young now I need to figure out how to get the 2 ball at -38 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markchilcutt Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 Congrats @Deanoski !!! Awesome skiing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markchilcutt Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 Awesome practice ride yesterday!!! Moved bindings forward to 29 and 15/16ths and boom ran my first full speed -35 of the season!! Thinking about going .755 and see if things get better. Supper happy with getting through 35 guess I should leave it alone lol!!!!! Water is around 74 67" 6.960 .750 2.455 29 15/16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skidawg Posted July 13, 2016 Baller Share Posted July 13, 2016 Bump it forward!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jdarwin Posted July 13, 2016 Baller Share Posted July 13, 2016 @OB1 - skidawg will get you dialed in... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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