Baller DefectiveDave Posted October 9, 2015 Baller Share Posted October 9, 2015 I'm talking about the soreness which occurs after you have skied. It is generally most obvious when you try to straighten your arms or flex your bicep the day after skiing. I know this is a really common soreness which generally passes as we ski more, but right now I'm struggling with it every time after I ski due to lack of time on the water. Does anyone know the root cause? I want to add some work at the gym to keep this from happening the next time I hit the water. Currently my gym work is purely focused on skiing and consists of deadlifts, squats, planks, pull-ups, and deadhangs (for hand strength). It seems to me it's either from bicep activation during the pre-turn or due to load on the arms during the pull. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Texas6 Posted October 9, 2015 Baller Share Posted October 9, 2015 Sounds like mild Tendinitis - there is another thread on this topic right now. Very common Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller andjules Posted October 9, 2015 Baller Share Posted October 9, 2015 @DefectiveDave, out of curiosity, are you saying you're sore in the elbow joint, or the end of the bicep muscle as it approaches the elbow (I know at the beginning of the season, I experience a lot of soreness in the latter spot)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Marco Posted October 9, 2015 Baller Share Posted October 9, 2015 Soreness in the bicep muscle itself (not tennis or golfers elbow) is most likely the results of deep water starts. The amount of load required to get out of the water, especially for heavier skiers with 2 feet in, is probably greater than the load when you are behind the boat. I have not seen any load data tests comparing the two, but that is what I feel. I concentrate on my get-ups every time. They can sap a lot of energy if you don't focus on technique. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller T_C Posted October 9, 2015 Baller Share Posted October 9, 2015 @DefectiveDave Add preacher curls to your gym work 3 sets of 15 to start progress to 3 sets of 10 or 12, 10 8 reps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller DefectiveDave Posted October 9, 2015 Author Baller Share Posted October 9, 2015 @Texas6, @andjules, @Marco, It's not really tendinitis. It feels like delayed onset muscle soreness right where the bicep and forarm meet the elbow joint. The soreness appears to be in the muscles themselves. However, the soreness of the muscles is localized close to the joint. So it might be where the tendon meets the muscle. It generally clears up in a couple of days, but it makes it difficult to ski for at least a few days if I get the chance. Today I actually had a rare opportunity to ski for the second time in 3 days, but by my 4th pass I was barely able to get up from my deep-water start due to the soreness/exhaustion in those muscles (I'm a skinny guy at around 160 lbs). @tc, So you're saying it's a bicep activation thing? I can definitely give them a shot, couldn't hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller lcgordon Posted October 9, 2015 Baller Share Posted October 9, 2015 I get sore there too and I think it happens when I dont keep my arms straight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Chef23 Posted October 9, 2015 Baller Share Posted October 9, 2015 Stretch after skiing then ice down later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller A_B Posted October 9, 2015 Baller Share Posted October 9, 2015 You could try spraying this on at night and just rub it in a little. I have found it really helped my bicep/forearm soreness after skiing. http://www.swansonvitamins.com/life-flo-pure-magnesium-oil-8-fl-oz-liquid?SourceCode=INTL405&CAWELAID=1388057108&catargetid=530002460000101546&cadevice=c&mkwid=aXgafSoi&pcrid=80480685127&gclid=CKLBheaNtsgCFYk7aQodVp0D_w Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller GOODESkier Posted October 9, 2015 Baller Share Posted October 9, 2015 More north and you could ice as you ski. You know multi-task............... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Intheday Posted October 9, 2015 Baller Share Posted October 9, 2015 Aren't the radius handles supposed to help? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller DmaxJC_ski Posted October 9, 2015 Baller Share Posted October 9, 2015 If I ski and don't keep my arms straight/hands down, I get sore like that also. I know right away if I was pulling with my arms vs using proper stack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Waternut Posted October 10, 2015 Baller Share Posted October 10, 2015 Soreness at the base of the bicep is more from pulling with bent elbows. I know what you mean and I had it last night. It typically happens when I'm skiing more defensively due to rough water. It's not a soreness I get often when I ski on smooth water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller DefectiveDave Posted October 11, 2015 Author Baller Share Posted October 11, 2015 Hey all, looks like the consensus is that I'm not keeping my arms straight enough, which is a distinct possibility. So that's something I'll need to add to the already very long "fix it" list. In the meantime I can probably add more intense and isolated bicep work to try to keep the soreness to a minimum. Thanks Ballers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporting Member wski1831 Posted October 11, 2015 Supporting Member Share Posted October 11, 2015 I have had a similar soreness. My chiropractor suggested changing my grip. I use palms down getting up and at the ends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Waternut Posted October 11, 2015 Baller Share Posted October 11, 2015 If you strengthen your biceps, the next weak link is your elbows and that doesn't heal as fast. If you grip the handle in your fingertips rather than your palms, it's harder to roll your hands in and bend your elbows when you load up the rope. If you don't have the strength to do that in the course, at least do it before and after the course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller PBD Posted October 12, 2015 Baller Share Posted October 12, 2015 lcgordon lcgordon Posts: 1 Baller October 9 Flag I get sore there too and I think it happens when I dont keep my arms straight. ^^^This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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