Baller swc5150 Posted August 8, 2017 Baller Share Posted August 8, 2017 3 light swipes with a file, and it's much better. Boat is finally dialed in, only took 3 nylon washers, a new tiller connection point and a shave off the rudder. You'd think it would come that way from the factory?! I wouldn't trade the wake for any boat, but who at MC didn't drive a 200 and realize that's how boats should come out of the box?! Rant over, still love the boat!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Jordan Posted August 10, 2017 Baller Share Posted August 10, 2017 @swc5150 Plenty of threads about CC 200s with improperly installed hydrogates "right out of the box" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller swc5150 Posted August 10, 2017 Baller Share Posted August 10, 2017 True, but 200's still don't require washers and a tiller attachment point change. I'm not saying CC builds everything perfectly, but they seem to have handling down to a science. I love how my PS drives now, I just don't like how it was up to me and advice on BOS to dial in the steering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MuskokaKy Posted August 10, 2017 Baller Share Posted August 10, 2017 am i the only one that find its sad that work needs to be done to a $80k boat? when was the last time you had to tweak your new Escalade?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Texas6 Posted August 10, 2017 Baller Share Posted August 10, 2017 For what it's worth, many people find that having a fair amount of rudder torque is helpful in giving proper feedback to the driver, and keeping a nice straight line. Having said that, I don't feel that way, a small amount of torque seems to be enough, and after changing the rudder adjustment on my Prostar, I love the way it drives. Could I grind it and get a little less torque, sure. But its a heck of a nice driving boat and the best boat I've owned to date. To each their own, but I don't see it as a major issue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller swc5150 Posted August 10, 2017 Baller Share Posted August 10, 2017 @MuskokaKy That makes 2 of us, although an Escalade is a bad example (from my experience anyway). :) Honestly, I didn't NEED to tweak the steering as much as I did (or at all), I just want a very nimble and responsive boat. Now that I have it where I want it, I couldn't be happier with our purchase. Sounds like most buyers are happy with the stock settings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller BraceMaker Posted August 10, 2017 Baller Share Posted August 10, 2017 I don't find it so sad - I think really some of this is more an impeachment of the boat set up for local delivery. I had a marina job in my younger years and that was a big part of what we did on new boats, often they shipped with the interiors partially disassembled, or not on trailers. Outboards shipped separately and needed to be put right before the owner took delivery. Huge issue was at the time we were providing lots of ez loader trailers and those had to be set up for the boat - sometimes the axles were way forwards and the tongue would barely have enough weight to keep the jack on the ground - you had to fix these things before the customer found them and since owners didn't want to grab their new toy with 20 hours on the gauge some of the "run in" type stuff got overlooked. We had an aztec ski boat sitting there for a year - sold and its maiden voyage the thing was taking on water like crazy - no packing in the stuffing box! It luckily didn't get very far since the owner cracked the lid when he heard the bilge running - but you didn't find this running it on a hose. Point being Cadillac sells 40k Escalades per year and has a consumer affairs rating <2/5 - meaning there are PLENTY of Cadillac owners with problems - and the people complaining about them are doing so because the customer service they received from the brand (dealership) did not bring them satisfaction on their 80,000$ car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Jordan Posted August 10, 2017 Baller Share Posted August 10, 2017 This stuff is another reason that buying a promo boat makes sense...they are completely dialed in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller swc5150 Posted August 10, 2017 Baller Share Posted August 10, 2017 If you want a used boat with the kinks worked out, a promo makes sense. The price difference just wasn't enough for us to justify a 125 hour used boat over new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socalskier Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Whatever you do don't use a grinder. Use a belt sander with a 60 grit. Way more accurate and larger swath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck_Dickey Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 This is the proper set up of the rudder. Take out the rubber washers and replace with SS washers and stack the double. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller swc5150 Posted August 14, 2017 Baller Share Posted August 14, 2017 Does anyone have any post-grind rudder pics? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ DW Posted August 14, 2017 Baller_ Share Posted August 14, 2017 @Chuck_Dickey : Curious as to the reason or need to stack the steering cable attachment washers on the nut side rather than one on each side of the tiller bracket? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller swc5150 Posted August 14, 2017 Baller Share Posted August 14, 2017 @DW I won't speak for Chuck, but I did it this way due to simplicity. There's not much work space down there, so it's much easier to just take off the lock nut a pop on the washers. It really surprised me how a little play at the cable connection point (with no washers) makes such a difference in handling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller 34mph Posted August 14, 2017 Baller Share Posted August 14, 2017 Did you guys just on screw the floor between the two seats in the back ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller swc5150 Posted August 14, 2017 Baller Share Posted August 14, 2017 @34mph the step piece on the walk-thru just pops off, giving you direct access. Pretty awesome design actually Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller 34mph Posted August 15, 2017 Baller Share Posted August 15, 2017 Sweet thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller swc5150 Posted August 15, 2017 Baller Share Posted August 15, 2017 Sorry for repeating myself, but if you look at Chuck's pic, I (and others) move the tiller connection to the other hole. Makes the steering way more responsive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MNshortliner Posted August 15, 2017 Baller Share Posted August 15, 2017 Wouldn't that make it more responsive but also more touchy. Also not as minor of adjustment while steering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller swc5150 Posted August 15, 2017 Baller Share Posted August 15, 2017 Correct. Very touchy to steering input, like a DD ski boat should be:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller aussiemc Posted August 16, 2017 Baller Share Posted August 16, 2017 If you move the steering cable connection point to the inner threaded hole on the Rudder tiller, you take away some of the mechanical advantage and the steering feels more loaded / connected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller 34mph Posted August 16, 2017 Baller Share Posted August 16, 2017 that worked great ! thanks guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skibug Posted August 16, 2017 Author Baller Share Posted August 16, 2017 Ours is on the inner hole of the tiller arm and I prefer it there over the outside hole. You should run it both ways and decide for yourself which you prefer. I pull 39 off skiers everyday, some heavier, some lighter and I think it helps dampen the wheel input needed for the heavier guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller 34mph Posted August 16, 2017 Baller Share Posted August 16, 2017 It is alot more rudder torque with the change however I'm good with that ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MNshortliner Posted September 14, 2017 Baller Share Posted September 14, 2017 Wouldn't that make it more responsive but also more touchy. Also not as minor of adjustment while steering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller aussiemc Posted September 14, 2017 Baller Share Posted September 14, 2017 If you move the steering cable connection point to the inner threaded hole on the Rudder tiller, you take away some of the "mechanical advantage" and the steering feels more loaded / connected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MNshortliner Posted September 14, 2017 Baller Share Posted September 14, 2017 Wouldn't that make it more responsive but also more touchy. Also not as minor of adjustment while steering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller aussiemc Posted September 14, 2017 Baller Share Posted September 14, 2017 If you move the steering cable connection point to the inner threaded hole on the Rudder tiller, you take away some of the "mechanical advantage" and the steering feels more loaded / connected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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