Baller Fast351 Posted October 27, 2015 Baller Share Posted October 27, 2015 I've been researching buying a 196 for a while, and have put together this spreadsheet that has every 196 that I could find on the internet between SIA, BoatTrader, OnlyInboards, and Craigslist. The list contains 80 different boats from 1997 to 2009. It also contains the following: Asking price, engine hours, primary hull accent color, speed control option, state where for sale, listing date, trailer axle count, and the URL where the boat can be found. It also contains a rating for what I view the interior and exterior condition to be. This has kind of been a fun project for me hunting/scouring the internet every couple of days for new listings. I figured I'd share the fruits of my labors with BoS, figured it might be useful for someone out there. Couple of notes: Obviously this is perishable data. These boats will probably sell within the next few months, and as boats get a year older, the price drops. I'm sure there are probably plenty of errors and incomplete data, as well as the condition rankings being based on available pictures, some of which, quite frankly, people need to learn to take better pictures if you're trying to sell a 10K-30K boat. Also, the hours for 2000-2002 boats are probably a guess at best since so many of these have had their crappy Teleflex gauges replaced with either new Teleflex gauges (resetting the hour counter without leaving any evidence) or replaced with Faria gauges (resetting the hours counter). The number of these boats with a factory installed Perfect Pass is pretty low so take those years' hours with a grain of salt. I also found it interesting the massive number of 1997s and 1999s, with relatively few 1998s, which were all with the exception of 1, green. Anyways, here you go. My personal hunt continues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller 6balls Posted October 27, 2015 Baller Share Posted October 27, 2015 I think what's funny out there is the gross overpricing of some TSC1's...thinking they can ask $19.9K for a '99 or $16.9k for a '97. Some other guy in the $18k's with a carb motor. With that logic I have a boat in XS of $20K...yah smokin' some good stuff there. Cool spreadsheet, good luck on your search. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Fast351 Posted October 27, 2015 Author Baller Share Posted October 27, 2015 Yeah I noticed that too. You'll see that some of the outrageous prices are just sitting and sitting, while the decently priced stuff is actually moving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller BrennanKMN Posted October 27, 2015 Baller Share Posted October 27, 2015 Some fun data there. Thanks for sharing! Excited to see what you end up getting. There are some great deals there. I found a few I wish I could jump on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller rodltg2 Posted October 27, 2015 Baller Share Posted October 27, 2015 That reminds me I need to take mine off decided not to sell. Looks like mine has the second highest hours ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller vtjc Posted October 28, 2015 Baller Share Posted October 28, 2015 Thanks for sharing! I hope to have funds in the next year or two to find a 196 for myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MichaelGoodman Posted October 28, 2015 Baller Share Posted October 28, 2015 Number 19 on your list is totally trashed if it is the same boat i looked at the hull is beat to hell and one of the fins is broken in half the other two did not look much better and the adjuster was gone. Would have been a total waste of five hours driving to go see it if I did not stop to see a old friend on the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MichaelGoodman Posted October 28, 2015 Baller Share Posted October 28, 2015 Make that the fin adjuster was gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Fast351 Posted October 28, 2015 Author Baller Share Posted October 28, 2015 @rodltg2 I was looking at that one yesterday poking through the list. Love that color blue! Nice looking boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller wilecoyote Posted October 28, 2015 Baller Share Posted October 28, 2015 The high prices are the "honey I've had the boat for sale for 2 years now and no one wants it" price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mopowpow Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 Ha, we had a similar spreadsheet when shopping for a 196 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller LeonL Posted October 30, 2015 Baller Share Posted October 30, 2015 @MichaelGoodman, what's a fin adjuster? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MichaelGoodman Posted October 30, 2015 Baller Share Posted October 30, 2015 @LeonL Sorry I should have said the adjuster for the rudder it was completely gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller LeonL Posted October 31, 2015 Baller Share Posted October 31, 2015 That's easily replaced, but the other details indicates it's a real turd. And apparently so is the owner for allowing it to get in that condition. Couldn't have been using it to ski slalom with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller tigadunner Posted November 1, 2015 Baller Share Posted November 1, 2015 Just posted my boat today - so add this one to the list: http://www.ski-it-again.com/php/skiitagain.php?endless=summer&topic=Search&category=Comp_Boat&postid=35103 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Fast351 Posted November 2, 2015 Author Baller Share Posted November 2, 2015 This is the final installment of this spreadsheet. I bought my boat, the search is over! (A separate thread is coming in a week or two with appropriate pictures, etc). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller oldjeep Posted November 2, 2015 Baller Share Posted November 2, 2015 @tigadunner - out of curiosity, why did an engine with 650 hours on it need a rebuild? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller tigadunner Posted November 2, 2015 Baller Share Posted November 2, 2015 Great question and learning experience for me to always get a compression test before buying. I had engine issues right after buying the boat. After the 3rd time out (and first one with family) it stopped running 15 feet from the dock. Boat had several bad valves, so I got the engine completely rebuilt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Teddy Posted January 22, 2016 Baller Share Posted January 22, 2016 @Fast351 what did you end up buying and have you posted picture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Fast351 Posted February 1, 2016 Author Baller Share Posted February 1, 2016 I got a 2001 (MY): My 196... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller LLUSA Posted February 1, 2016 Baller Share Posted February 1, 2016 Deal of the Year 2014 Mastercraft Pro Star 197 425 hours, bow cover, 5.7 Ilmor, MC Road Cover, Red Bimini, used on private lake only, 3 small scratches, interior is in very good condition, all maintenance done as scheduled, one recall for a water pump, boat belongs to Alabama Water Ski Team, UA has said sell it $37,500, check out on ski-It-again. This boat has not been misused or beat up. It runs out perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller disland Posted February 4, 2016 Baller Share Posted February 4, 2016 @Fast351 nice boat looks in great shape. Enjoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller BrennanKMN Posted February 6, 2016 Baller Share Posted February 6, 2016 Great looking boat! The guys up at Son are a great group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ The_MS Posted February 6, 2016 Baller_ Share Posted February 6, 2016 @Son Rocks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller vtjc Posted May 22, 2019 Baller Share Posted May 22, 2019 For sale pricing for 150 CC 196’s from April 2016 through May 2019. I complied this list while searching for my 196. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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