Administrators Horton Posted November 16, 2015 Administrators Share Posted November 16, 2015 @MattP can you explain to the new guys Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MattP Posted November 16, 2015 Baller Share Posted November 16, 2015 The story goes : If the perfect day is 80 degree F water & 80 degree F air (a total of 160) then the Baller Index = 100. We all know that 50 degree F air and 50 degree F water (a total of 100) is the limit of insanity so it has a Baller Index of 0. Note: I know the C° calc is not perfect?, but I think it is close. If you want to do the math send it to me and I will update it. Current formulas: BIF = (((WF+AF)-100)*(5/3)) BIC = (((((WC+AC)*9)/5)-36)*(5/3)) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller DaveD Posted November 16, 2015 Baller Share Posted November 16, 2015 Shouldn't wind speed also be part of this equation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted November 16, 2015 Author Administrators Share Posted November 16, 2015 @daved if the air is freaking cold and the water is freaking cold AND the wind is blowing you should consider doing something else Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Wolfeie Posted November 16, 2015 Baller Share Posted November 16, 2015 if my math is right Ski West was a baller index of about 50.0 Saturday. Air 70 Water 60 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MattP Posted November 16, 2015 Baller Share Posted November 16, 2015 @Wolfeie math? There is a calculator on the right side of the main discussions page... @DaveD the last person who asked about wind chill got a panda.... @chris_logan it was your first too. As for wind eh what Horton said. You can always replace the air temp with air temp with wind chill. I will entertain logical equasions for adding wind speed to the equasion. @Than_Bogan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller chris_logan Posted November 16, 2015 Baller Share Posted November 16, 2015 @MattP it was a proud Panda moment, where the inner engineer in me wanted to over-complicate things to make it easier to understand. I'm not the only one who likes to do that, though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToddF Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 simplified versions for excel: Less parenthesis :) (((WC+AC)*1.8)-36)*1.67 for Excel Celsius ((WF+AF)-100)*1.67 for Excel Fahrenheit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller RazorRoss3 Posted November 16, 2015 Baller Share Posted November 16, 2015 Proud to say that as a Minnesotan I have skied into the negative BI range. I think around 40&40 F was the mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller igkya Posted November 16, 2015 Baller Share Posted November 16, 2015 Remind me why are we using the Baller index instead of the simple air + water temp method? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ MISkier Posted November 16, 2015 Baller_ Share Posted November 16, 2015 For running buoys, my minimum was 45F air and 45F water in November 2011, which, I think, is a -16.7 on the index. I've done a polar bear free ski with 34F water and 40F air. The worst slalom equipment I own is between my ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MattP Posted November 16, 2015 Baller Share Posted November 16, 2015 @ToddF yes that works, not sure why you need excel... Your version would not be friendly with my JS BI Calc. @igkya if the limit of sanity is 0 than any negative BI is insane therefore positive BI is in the realm of sanity. (Also it helps cross the F/C conversations I would have to do in my head) @RazorRoss3 you sir are a little insane, but could have been lack of good judgement due to a brain freeze. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller RazorRoss3 Posted November 16, 2015 Baller Share Posted November 16, 2015 @MattP, trust me that brain freeze is not necessary for bad judgement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller oldjeep Posted November 16, 2015 Baller Share Posted November 16, 2015 @MattP - sanity is relative to your tolerance for cold temps. Waterskiing at a negative baller index is a whole lot more comfortable than downhill ski racing in a speed suit when it is -20 with a good wind ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stewy Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 baller index -40 last thursday, broke through 30 feet of ice to get the boat in.....only possible with camaro blacktec 2.0....amazing suit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller wolfgang Posted November 30, 2015 Baller Share Posted November 30, 2015 @skibrain and @Stewy , I am in awe ! We quit here in Ontario (well south of MN) at our Thanksgiving in mid October . Neighbors said we were nuts back then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ RichardDoane Posted December 16, 2015 Baller_ Share Posted December 16, 2015 this morning the water temp was 44'F, air was 34'F when we started at 10am, and almost 40'F after we each took a ride, that makes for a BI of something between -36 and -26, it was a beautiful day at the lake ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ RichardDoane Posted December 16, 2015 Baller_ Share Posted December 16, 2015 this morning the water temp was 44'F, air was 34'F when we started at 10am, and almost 40'F after we each took a ride, that makes for a BI of something between -36 and -26, it was a beautiful day at the lake ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted December 16, 2015 Author Administrators Share Posted December 16, 2015 I love you Zapp but that is just stupid Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted December 16, 2015 Author Administrators Share Posted December 16, 2015 I love you Zapp but that is just stupid Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller bishop8950 Posted December 16, 2015 Baller Share Posted December 16, 2015 Wow Zippy, that's hardcore. Broho looks different with that winter lighting. Those temps make NorCal seem balmy with water around 50 and air in the low 60s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller bishop8950 Posted December 16, 2015 Baller Share Posted December 16, 2015 Wow Zippy, that's hardcore. Broho looks different with that winter lighting. Those temps make NorCal seem balmy with water around 50 and air in the low 60s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Cam Posted December 16, 2015 Baller Share Posted December 16, 2015 Broke a thin crust of ice to ski on Sunday BI of -54, only managed one set each getting soft in our old age, looking forward to a couple of sets today BI forecast is -24. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Cam Posted December 16, 2015 Baller Share Posted December 16, 2015 Broke a thin crust of ice to ski on Sunday BI of -54, only managed one set each getting soft in our old age, looking forward to a couple of sets today BI forecast is -24. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Web Posted December 16, 2015 Baller Share Posted December 16, 2015 Maybe you guys in the negative BI range should be reporting your BAC as well. Maybe there could be a BAC correction factor for the weighted BI?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Web Posted December 16, 2015 Baller Share Posted December 16, 2015 Maybe you guys in the negative BI range should be reporting your BAC as well. Maybe there could be a BAC correction factor for the weighted BI?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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