Baller jedgell Posted June 14, 2016 Baller Share Posted June 14, 2016 Just got a 2004 SN 196 with Excallibur. Had it out at the lake this past weekend and it's dog out of the hole. Has the ACME 422 on it, but the ends on a couple blades are bent. We're at 4,800', does anyone have a good prop recommendation? I've skied and driven plenty of 196's with the 422 prop, never needed more power. Not sure if it's just the damaged prop, or elevation or partly both. At WOT got to 40 mph at 4,700 rpm. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Jody_Seal Posted June 14, 2016 Baller_ Share Posted June 14, 2016 I would get the propeller repaired before looking for new. if you have a good prop shop you can ask them to take a little cup out of it. WOT should be in the 5200 RPM range with that engine. Also when was the last tune up? many owners bring in their boats wanting to know why it wont perform, 12 year old boat original FCC filter, Cap/rotor, spark plugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jedgell Posted June 14, 2016 Author Baller Share Posted June 14, 2016 Thanks @ Jody_Seal. Will replace plugs and FCC filter and see if that helps. Since we need a new prop anyway, can't afford to wait 1-2 weeks to get it repaired (as you know the season is too short in MT), I might get a prop with 1/2" less pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ski6jones Posted June 14, 2016 Baller Share Posted June 14, 2016 Congrats on the new boat Justin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Kelvin Posted June 14, 2016 Baller Share Posted June 14, 2016 If ordering new, try the Acme 654. 15 pitch instead of 15 1/2 on the 422 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jedgell Posted June 14, 2016 Author Baller Share Posted June 14, 2016 @Kelvin - That's the one I ordered. Jim (or Tim) at ACME was great to work with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Kelvin Posted June 14, 2016 Baller Share Posted June 14, 2016 Come back to Texas sometime. It would be nice to ski with you again and the season is much longer that the MT season :smile: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skinut Posted June 14, 2016 Baller Share Posted June 14, 2016 @jedgell Are you back in Missoula? Where are you skiing now? Going to Pork n Buoys in July? If so I'll see you there. Quinn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jedgell Posted June 14, 2016 Author Baller Share Posted June 14, 2016 @skinut I'm in Bozeman. Not going to make it to Pork n Buoys, have a family reunion. I'll probably be in the Pocatello area next week for a day, let me know if you want to meet up to ski. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skinut Posted June 14, 2016 Baller Share Posted June 14, 2016 Sent you a PM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
303Skier Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 @jedgell I have used Acme 1868 and it rips at high altitude here in Colorado!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
303Skier Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 @jedgell I have used Acme 1868 and it rips at high altitude here in Colorado!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller lcgordon Posted June 21, 2016 Baller Share Posted June 21, 2016 @303Skier is that a 3 or 4 blade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller lcgordon Posted June 21, 2016 Baller Share Posted June 21, 2016 @303Skier is that a 3 or 4 blade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
303Skier Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 @jedgell 4 blade, 3 blade props are usually used for jump boats only. I think the 654 would work too but the 1868 is aggressive for short setups and fast out of the hole. LIST HERE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
303Skier Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 @jedgell 4 blade, 3 blade props are usually used for jump boats only. I think the 654 would work too but the 1868 is aggressive for short setups and fast out of the hole. LIST HERE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller lcgordon Posted June 21, 2016 Baller Share Posted June 21, 2016 Thanks @303Skier was trying to talk jim into getting a 3 blade barefoot prop. Nevermind tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller lcgordon Posted June 21, 2016 Baller Share Posted June 21, 2016 Thanks @303Skier was trying to talk jim into getting a 3 blade barefoot prop. Nevermind tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skier2788 Posted June 22, 2016 Baller Share Posted June 22, 2016 I run a 654 on my 02 196 with the excalibur 330. I ski in Fort collins CO so pretty similar elevation. Hole shot is a little slow but managable. Runs 41 at 5,000 rpm. Can pull a 6 foot 2 in. 220 pound skier at 36 mph without any problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skier2788 Posted June 22, 2016 Baller Share Posted June 22, 2016 I run a 654 on my 02 196 with the excalibur 330. I ski in Fort collins CO so pretty similar elevation. Hole shot is a little slow but managable. Runs 41 at 5,000 rpm. Can pull a 6 foot 2 in. 220 pound skier at 36 mph without any problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skinut Posted June 22, 2016 Baller Share Posted June 22, 2016 @skier2788 what is a hole "shit"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skinut Posted June 22, 2016 Baller Share Posted June 22, 2016 @skier2788 what is a hole "shit"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skier2788 Posted June 22, 2016 Baller Share Posted June 22, 2016 Haha typo from my phone. But seriously the hole shot is..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skier2788 Posted June 22, 2016 Baller Share Posted June 22, 2016 Haha typo from my phone. But seriously the hole shot is..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
303Skier Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 @skier2788 - Get your shit together! @lcgordon - I have a 422 on my 08 now and don't have any issues with 36 mph pulling @skier2788 or I at 5280 ft. The hole shot is very weak though. If you're having issues with power might even look into replacing fuel filters, plugs, wires and cap/rotor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
303Skier Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 @skier2788 - Get your shit together! @lcgordon - I have a 422 on my 08 now and don't have any issues with 36 mph pulling @skier2788 or I at 5280 ft. The hole shot is very weak though. If you're having issues with power might even look into replacing fuel filters, plugs, wires and cap/rotor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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