2018 Vapor

[skiboyny]

@horton Get your onside to come around like your off side does and you will really have something there!

[aupatking]

Looked flowie. Real early. Nice skiing. I'm hoping mine will get here by the end of the month.

[The_MS]

Need to get rid of that lame looking 1 handed gate and you will run 39

[thager]

@MS Please.please,please do not help @Horton!!!!!

[markchilcutt]

@Horton nice skiing!!!! Love how much space and time I am finding before the bouy!

[JuanPedroSanchezlll]

Wow radar lake was so fun don't we all love waiting in the hot for two hours so we can get a ticket so we can get up 5:30 and go out to the lake and get a practice pull

[Bruce_Butterfield]

Who did you find to put on a Horton mask and ski like that?

[MickeyThompson]

@Horton Great skiing. What is your pull out reference for your one handed gate?

[gavski]

Definitely easy looking and smooth....anyone else think there is a bit of tip rise at the end of both turns?? From all the videos i have seen of the ski, it seems to be a common trait...i even compared some old footage of @horton on the 2014 vapor (i couldn't find any on the '16)....no tip rise at all....

[skidawg]

Radar marketing strategy. The 2018 vapor- it'll even make Horton ski like Rossi!!!

[tony]

Any update on the release date for the 68"?

[teammalibu]

I am having a blast on this ski!

 

[Texas6]

@gavski - the ski honestly has a huge tip curve on the front, could be what you are seeing

[Horton]

@gavski what you are seeing is the ski gets a lot of angle fast. The tip rise is my error and or the way I ride the ski. If you compare it to a ski that gets less angle the tip would likely be less. If I were more skilled or had more time on the 18 Vapor I would assume the tip would come up less.

 

My point is the tip rise is not a flaw in the ski. It is a flaw in the skier.

[ColeGiacopuzzi]

@tony We had 68s at nationals so they are making them.

[JGray]

@gavski One thing I have noticed is even when I get some tip rise which is my fault not the ski, the ski seems to auto-correct very quickly and take off vs. stall and require input to get it down and moving. I saw the same in @Horton video.

[swerveit]

this is purely an observation and I'm not insinuating anything but I've seen a number of podium placements from pro team members all on there 2017 skis...?

[skierjp]

You never know for sure what they are really skiing on! I would bet the bottom is a 2018.

[markchilcutt]

@swerveit @skierjp has a very valid point but you will also find that a lot of top level skiers will not switch skis mid/late season. Can guarantee the majority (99%) of the top level skiers will be riding the 18 and sitting higher on those podiums. On Sunday ran the cleanest, earliest and easiest 35 off of my life! was laughing as I came through the gates!

[UWSkier]

Will report from Malibu what the Radar folks are riding. I predict it'll be a mix, BICBW.

[skierjp]

The bottom might not match the top if you know what I mean.

[UWSkier]

In the case of the 2018 shape, it's pretty easy to spot. That beak is pretty obvious, even if it's wearing 2017 clothing.

[skidawg]

I had my first nationals slalom medal since M2 & highest score & medal at nationals to date on the '18, I got on it just before regionals. Nothing is a given or bullet proof, but this new ski is an advantage for sure! #inlovewithskiingagain

[Bruce_Butterfield]

@skidawg what are you going to do if Rossi and Eddie build a mountain bike?

I got home to a lake that was 12 ft too high to ski........I guess a good problem for Texas in August, but I'm itching to get on that ski.

[Broussard]

Some of the guys got 2018 Vapors with 2017 Pro Build graphics before the new ski was released.

[skidawg]

@Bruce_Butterfield -probably ride it like I stole it.

[teammalibu]

I am loving this ski and my back is much happier also!

[MrJones]

You are going to let me have my traditional "Tournament set on teammalibu's ski" at the Labor Day record? ;)

[JGray]

I have a few rides on mine now and settling in. I played around a bit with binding placement but settled on exactly where I started. Amazing to jump on a new ski that is totally different than my last and be right where I left off and start moving forward. I haven't gotten where I am good enough to scrap out a higher score yet, but I am running my normal passes so much nicer and easier. I tend to screw up because I get so excited how well the pass is going!

[Ali]

@Bdecker brought mine back from Nationals. @brooks had set it up. Skied up to my average off the dock first set. 3rd set ran 32off/13m on home water for the first time this year. I was laughing going from 5 to 6 I was so early. So smooth and fast and keeps getting angle. It is the real deal, I may have to give @Bdecker a cheque. Though he was being optimistic thinking he would get money from a Scotsman.

[skidawg]

@Ali - awesome skiing, laughing between bouys is exactly the same feeling I get

[rawly]

I'm laughing between checks. My '17 is 2 months old and '18 is on the way. Then I can laugh between buoys. What the heck , I get 3 paychecks this month.

[bigtex2011]

 

[bigtex2011]

my better half at 32 today

[teammalibu]

@MrJones of course it's a tradition!!

[skidawg]

@bigtex2011 - Mama bear Rips.

[auskier]

Any word on how the lithium will line up compared to the pro? Is it just the core - PVC vs PMI, or is there differences in flex etc?

[Horton]

@eddie_roberts_jr

[eddie_roberts_jr]

The flex and rocker specs for the Probuild and Lithium are very, very close to being the same. The Probuild is about a 1/4 lb. lighter and several hundred dollars worth better. :)

[Horton]

For the record, my 2016 Lithium Vapor is one of my all-time favorite skis. There is nothing wrong with lithium.

[Justin_C]

This makes me glad to hear. I just bought a used '16 Lithium Vapor. I've just been reading the thread on that ski and pretending it's 2016... and that I'm 2 years younger...

[mbabiash]

I liked my 16 vapor over the 17 pro build

The jury is still out on the 18. Trying deep short settings tomorrow.

[aupatking]

I'm still waiting for my 18. My 17 Lithium had me 2 balls more than any ski I've been on.

[rq0013]

I've been on my 2018 for a few weeks now and have a handful of sets on it. I came off a 17 Pro build, ski 36mph -22 thru -35. This ski is the real deal! I love the support it has in the turn and how it makes everything feel smooth. The 17 turned great but I think the 18 turns even easier and grabs angle smoother. I can feel the front of the ski just curling in towards the center in the turn. I have been experimenting with early transitions at 32, 35 and the ski loves it, carries out more than I thought it would. The ski is at the next level for balanced. I feel I can ski the way I want and know the ski will support me and create angle easily. My 35 attempts have been more consistent and easier, especially coming out of my offside. Its been a fun ski to ride!

[skifreak]

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[tony]

Does anyone know when the 68's will be shipping?

[MattP]

@brooks or @eddie_roberts_jr should be able to help you out @tony

[brooks]

Hey @tony there are a handful of 68's out there and that mold is going in next so there should be more out there soon!

[mbabiash]

I'm on the 68 and I struggled with the shallow long settings.

I've taken 2 sets on the deep settings and I am really liking this ski.

Definitely better than the 17 which I felt was too snappy out of the turn for me. The 18 seems to turn just as good but it feels softer coming out of the buoy.

[markchilcutt]

3.5 @ 38 last night in practice! 2nd best score of my life. This was my 2nd time trying 38 this season. The new ski is magic!