Baller RLW Posted August 15, 2017 Baller Share Posted August 15, 2017 We have always hung our Nautique by lifting rings in our boat house and are contemplating a Mastercraft. However, I've read that lifting a Mastercraft by the rings for extended periods isn't recommended without a cradle. Does anyone have experience using a spreader bar and the rings for extended lifting? Any hull concerns? Pics would be appreciated if possible. Thx! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skinut Posted August 15, 2017 Baller Share Posted August 15, 2017 Based on the topic heading I would say go to the gym and work out more, but I don't think that is the answer you were looking for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller keithh2oskier Posted August 15, 2017 Baller Share Posted August 15, 2017 Have you spoken directly to Mastercraft about this? Is this a new boat your looking at? Others can probably share but there are a few lakes I can think of where I am pretty positive I recall the big three all being lifted by the lifting rings with no additional support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller RLW Posted August 15, 2017 Author Baller Share Posted August 15, 2017 @keithh2oskier. I sent an email to Aarne Clow, who was the Mastercraft rep at Nationals and I sent Mastercraft the question through their website contact. No replies yet. I'm sure others have faced the same issue. I just want to make sure I don't risk hull damage by lifting with the rings vs a cradle. Hopefully I can get Mastercraft's answer and an answer from someone who has used just the rings vs a cradle lift. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller RLW Posted August 15, 2017 Author Baller Share Posted August 15, 2017 @keithh2oskier I sent an email to Aarne Clow, the MC rep at nationals and contacted MC through their website. No replies yet. I just don't want to risk hull damage by using the rings vs a cradle for extended lifting. Hopefully, I'll get an answer from someone at MC and maybe from a baller who has faced the same dilemma. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller keithh2oskier Posted August 15, 2017 Baller Share Posted August 15, 2017 I think in this case I would want something in writing from MC that it will not damage your boat structurally if you leave it hanging by the rings. I think ballers can provide maybe real world scenario's but likely none of us can comment in a way that would mean anything in case something did in fact happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller RLW Posted August 15, 2017 Author Baller Share Posted August 15, 2017 Thanks Keith. You hit the nail on the head. Here is the reply I just got from MC: Hi Robert, I am limited with what I can tell you, from a liability stand point. You are welcome to see what other owners are doing: www.mastercraft.com/teamtalk Frequently Asked Questions: http://www.mastercraft.com/teamtalk/showthread.php?t=5427 MasterCraft Owner Manuals: https://www.mastercraft.com/manuals MasterCraft Owners Forum: https://www.mastercraft.com/teamtalk/ Team Talk Search Engine: https://cse.google.com/cse/home?cx=005775850323706454504:gufmagvsc-s&hl=en MasterCraft Owners Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/groups/mastercraftowners/ The MasterCraft Project: https://www.facebook.com/groups/themastercraftproject/ Older MasterCraft Parts: http://greatlakesskipper.com/ Hope this helps! Max Doesn't sound like MC will comment or support it. Guess I'll have to look back at Nautiques. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller UWSkier Posted August 15, 2017 Baller Share Posted August 15, 2017 Weird. Surprised that was an issue. Wonder if it's because they have no idea if you're some clown who's going to try to lift a boat full of ballast or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Jordan Posted August 15, 2017 Baller Share Posted August 15, 2017 I would use a cradle regardless...it will support the hull better...no matter who made it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ntx Posted August 15, 2017 Baller Share Posted August 15, 2017 I have seen hulls trashed by doing this. I know they are there to be used to lift, but I would not do it for a extended time. Support bunks under the motor are the safest way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller oldjeep Posted August 15, 2017 Baller Share Posted August 15, 2017 Surprised that there are people who hang boats from the hooks for more than loading in a trailer. Is this a southern thing? Around here we use a shorestation or floating lift if water is too derp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skimtb Posted August 16, 2017 Baller Share Posted August 16, 2017 Agree to add a cradle. Is this a possibility? The prostar is nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller RLW Posted August 16, 2017 Author Baller Share Posted August 16, 2017 @skimtb. I agree that the prostar is nice. Adding a cradle may be a possibility, but an added cost for me which I don't really want since I don't own the boat house. The boat house has 2 spots and boats have always been suspended without cradles by cables and straps with a spreader bar if needed. I suppose I should research the cost for a cradle, but I was hoping it wasn't necessary. @ oldjeep. Not a southern thing - we ski in Ohio. I appreciate everyone's input. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller LLUSA Posted August 16, 2017 Baller Share Posted August 16, 2017 @oldjeep it's not a southern thing, just the way CC use to do their boats. Use a cradle from someone that's done both on MC boats since the early 90's cradle only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skimtb Posted August 16, 2017 Baller Share Posted August 16, 2017 You may be able to find a cheap or beat up boat hoist to get a low cost cradle? Two spreader bars at top then cables down to four corners of the cradle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Alberto Soares Posted August 16, 2017 Baller Share Posted August 16, 2017 Not a MC, but I ring lifted my LXI for 2 years before building an electric lifter, no problem at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ DW Posted August 16, 2017 Baller_ Share Posted August 16, 2017 @LLUSA : You do know that @oldjeep is from Southern Canada (Minnesota) so pretty much anywhere USA is the south to him :* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller RLW Posted August 16, 2017 Author Baller Share Posted August 16, 2017 I spoke with Mastercraft and they don't recommend any boat be hung long-term by lifting rings, especially as the boats have become larger and heavier. Sounds like a cradle is probably best for any boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller keithh2oskier Posted August 16, 2017 Baller Share Posted August 16, 2017 I wonder if the impact of open bow boats have given the boats less overall support from the stress of the boat. When you have the entire bow fiber glassed solid it seems like it would provide significantly more support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ MarcusBrown Posted August 16, 2017 Baller_ Share Posted August 16, 2017 @RLW the ProStar will hang just as well, and just as long as any other brand. Probably not the best method for lifting any boat for an extended period of time, but if you've got no other option, I wouldn't be shying away from MC simply because you can't get the answer you want. When we designed the new ProStar, we ended up with more vertical hull sides than any other direct drive ski boat. So its probably the most structurally sound direct drive, when hung by lifting rings, as the hull sides are better oriented (as beams) to support the mass of the boat and engine in between the straps. Hope this makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller BraceMaker Posted August 16, 2017 Baller Share Posted August 16, 2017 That chain resting on the back of the Malibu gives me anxiety! Hang a bucket on the hook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller oldjeep Posted August 16, 2017 Baller Share Posted August 16, 2017 @BraceMaker - more anxiety that that half cut strap? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller BraceMaker Posted August 16, 2017 Baller Share Posted August 16, 2017 @oldjeep ironically yes. That strap probably 5500 lb rated holding back half of boat. Wouldn't go under it but I'm just hearing chains smacking Hull all night clunk clunk clunk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller thager Posted August 16, 2017 Baller Share Posted August 16, 2017 Make sure you use your legs and keep your back straight! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Alberto Soares Posted August 17, 2017 Baller Share Posted August 17, 2017 Dont worry guys, she survived ok! @BraceMaker - after we lifted it, we raised the chain, so no clunck clunck, at least during the night. @oldjeep - we use to put 2 extra vertical straps and let the weight on them, I didnt like to keep the rings stressed on that angle for too long @thager - That was the worse part, tired and still have to work hard. Thinking about it, I guess I know now what ruined my shoulders... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporting Member wski1831 Posted August 23, 2017 Supporting Member Share Posted August 23, 2017 At one of the lakes I ski at there's a 96 Mastercraft hung. Similar to the way Alberto Soares did, except in the back there is a steel spreader bar so the straps are more vertical. Don't have a pic, but if I can get up there I'll get a pic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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