The EP Stiletto Project

[Drago]

@LLUSA --that's awesome.

I think @Horton 's adrenaline is already off the graph.

[paul413ski]

The suspense is killing me

[jimbrake]

@Stevie Boy - you are correct, sir. I loved the Stiletto, but broke two out of three of them. Ski historians correct me if I'm wrong, but I have always heard that the KD 7000 was splashed from the Stiletto and it was the first ski to have the very slight hour glass outline in the tail.

[theboardingschool]

For it to work best, get a big ass file and run that bitch down the bevel from your front foot back about 4 good times. If that doesn’t work, cut off the tail with a Swiss Army knife to make it a square tail while drinking a Coors Light.

 

At least that’s what a Lucky used to do.

[Horton]

I was with you until you said Coors light

[theboardingschool]

Maybe other beers work, but I wouldn’t mess with the process.

[packski]

Isn't the First Goode skis based off of this ski? I had the Stilletto and a Tactic. Can't seem to find them! Curious to see how Horton does.

[B_S]

All those fin mods are kinda cheating. Also, you need a nice 4 buckle vest in teal and pink, with matching trunks, short and tight.

[Lovell]

Stiletto great memories

Jason Paredes gave/sold me like $50 an old EP Stiletto when I was stalling out at 15/36 in college.He was the coach. This was maybe 1993 or 1994 Pushed me mostly through -22 then for some reason it did not work for me anymore and I went back to my Kidder. Felt like I could push the Kidder around on my own betterFunny part is I stopped skiing for darn near 20 years and when I came back I asked my parents if my ski stuff was still in the basement of their house where I left it. My Dad said sure. So I found the kidder rode it and then went to look for the Stilletto. My Dad told me that he cut it up with the Sawzall and put it in curbside recycling..

Great memories

Waiting for the video.

[Horton]

First pass 32 mph 28 off ( I am not that crazy). After that I went to 34 and stayed there.

 

Then I ran some 28s. It took a few tries to run 32. Best was 2.5 at35

 

Second ride. I ran all my 32s and after a bunch of tries got 3 @ 35.

 

Most of the passes are below.

This was all with Chuck Forrest settings. I do not know what he looked like skiing but it is not how I ski. I will try traditional settings next.

[skibrain]

Nice skiing!!

 

Fin looks like this on mine:

 

I could set you up a decent set of “System 90” bindings if the hard shells fail you.

[Chef23]

Out of curiosity what are you trying to prove with this.

[BG1]

Steve Schnitzer at one time sold a fin like Chuck Forrest used called the “Chucky”. It was more of a triangle shape with a smaller radius at the deepest point and very little “belly” in the fin. It therefore did not have as much surface area compared to the traditional shape but you were to run it deep. That blue fin you’re running looks like way too much fin. Kristi Overton rode that ski as well from what I remember. I have one of the very first ones made before EP was sold. It finally cracked between the feet after a few seasons. It was a great ski at the time.

[Drago]

@BG1 "Chucky" is what you do @ the ball.

[Stevie Boy]

I wouldn,t like to see anybody get hurt, but playing around with old skis is scarey, what make of ski was Jennifet Leachman on, when she had a catastrophic failure, as she entered the first wake, resulting in horrific injuries, I think the ski snapped inbetween her bindings ( double boots )

[APB]

Keep skiing that thing all of 2020!!

[Drago]

@Stevie Boy . It was a Goode.

Many skis were based on the kidder and stiletto, with sidecut like a snow ski behind the back foot.

@Horton . Good skiing. An EP rating back then for M2 was 5@35. A few more sets and You are There.

A little moe Susi than Chuck:

 

 

[Drago]

Kristi ran a world record 2@39 on that ski, I think

[ALPJr]

Kristi set at least one record on the Connelly Concept

[Shakeski]

So awesome!

[Jody_Seal]

@Horton

Fun little test.

 

i have a couple20 year old Mapple's you could try next. one of them is a custom layup that Andy found too stiff. Stephen rode it successfully for two years.

[Horton]

@skibrain can you measure that fin and tell me what the settings were for the drop-through

[skibrain]

@Horton I'd be glad to but the ski is in my brother's garage 850 miles away in Denver. I could get him to lay a tape measure on it for rough position, but he has never measured a fin.

[KRoundy]

Fun stuff! Well done, sir. That was a highly entertaining way to kick off October on BOS.

[Than_Bogan]

So as of your first swing, you're exactly two passes worse that your c-75. Do you suspect that we've really added two passes via ski tech during that time, or is it more like you could get a lot further on that Stiletto with more practice and tuning your style to it?

[Horton]

@Than_Bogan

ski design advancement in the last 25 years seems worth 6 to 9 balls for me. I am going to monkey around and see what I can get. If I can get comfortable at exit of Off Side I think I can get 2 @ 38.

[packski]

That would put Bob Lapoint at 5 at 43 off.

[Adam Caldwell]

@Horton - I am impressed. It took me 3 passes and 2 fin adjustments to get through 6 buoys on that ski last year.

[ForrestGump]

Think about how strong Mapple, Rogers, Overton were to run the scores they did 20-25 years ago. What would Mapple or Rogers do if they were in their 25-28 year old prime on todays ski.

 

[matthewbrown]

6.96, 2.522, .75

[Horton]

Jeff R says 6.900 / 2.502 /.950

 

[EricKelley]

I had to give a court deposition on these. Mine broke and apparently another skier was badly injured when one broke on them. The questions the defense attorney asked were crazy. Was a pretty intense deal. Never knew who the skier was who was suing EP. Mine broke in half when I hit the first wake. Think I got it from Lucky.

[MrJones]

First ski I ran 38 on. Bought it from John Reichard. Something of a blem ski I imagine. Ski must have been full of resin. Probably weighed 10 lbs. Maybe 15 with the double HO high wraps. It floated tail town. Like straight down with about 2" of tip sticking out of the water.

 

Still in the rafters over at the shop. Prolly pass on the nostalgia ride though...

[Horton]

@MrJones chicken

[Horton]

Good settings make all the difference. I think it is still too much fin but what better. The funny thing is my gates are as bad at 38 on the EP as they are on any new ski.

 

[KRoundy]

Turn, tip flies up, recover, pull like mad, repeat. Looks like the 80's all over again!

[Horton]

@KRoundy give me time I will tame that beast

[paul413ski]

@Hortonski you are a legend :)

[skibrain]

@Horton I know you prefer not to make comparisons between skis, but is the EP vaguely similar to anything from this decade?

[Wish]

Wonder how much harder it would be with bindings from that era?

[thager]

@Horton I will laugh so hard if a few more fin tweaks get you into -39!!

[Horton]

@skibrain

 

 

[Horton]

@wish Wileys are Wileys. meh.

[Horton]

@thager on Ride # 4 I got 3 @ 38. I am getting closer but might not be too much left.

[skibrain]

@Horton haha. Ok will wait for the official ski review.

[AdamCord]

@thager I've said it many times: Skis shapes have not progressed that much in the past 20+ years. If that Stiletto were built with today's materials it'd be pretty close to today's skis.

[BlueSki]

@skibrain is right, you need to ski 20 sets and write the review.

[Horton]

@BlueSki

 

[BlueSki]

Yes!!!! He shoots, he scores! My first panda!

[Horton]

best pass on the ski so far - 32 off from ride 4