Baller JBB Posted February 5, 2020 Baller Share Posted February 5, 2020 I am in the market for something to do with my back foot while I am skiing. I have read several threads regarding both the Reflex R-style and the Radar HRT. Generally, it seems that for both, they take a bit of getting used to, but people generally love them. How do these two options Compare to each other? is one better for X, and the other for Y? Are there differences in stack height? etc. By way of background, I have a Syndicate hardshell, and have been using an RTP, but find that as i get older and more duck-footed, that my heel is sliding off the side of the RTP, and thought one of these options would help keep things in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller dave2ball Posted February 5, 2020 Baller Share Posted February 5, 2020 You can’t go wrong with either. This is a personal feel. Other people that comment can only say what works for them. That may not work for you. Do you move your back foot when skiing? The in the reflex R your back foot isolated in one spot. The HRT is more like a rear toe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Jordan Posted February 5, 2020 Baller Share Posted February 5, 2020 It amounts to personal preference rather than a concrete decision tree. Coming from rtp, the hrt will feel more familiar. I honestly doubt that you would have much of an issue going to either. It seems that people have much more difficult time going from a rear boot to rpt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller BraceMaker Posted February 5, 2020 Baller Share Posted February 5, 2020 I tried to go double hard shell to R-Style and hated it, skipped it and went HRT - hope to try RTP maybe this summer. Even with the HRT I run it fully unlaced - I like being able to jump in with my foot out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Greg Banish Posted February 5, 2020 Members Share Posted February 5, 2020 I went from double high wrap boots to a hard shell and R-style and found it quite comfortable and familiar. The other small benefit of the R-style is a closed toe in cold water at the beginning/end of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Jmoski Posted February 8, 2020 Baller Share Posted February 8, 2020 I switched from a double boot set up, to reflex 2.0 front & R rear, then to Syndicate & Radar HRT which I like best. The 1/2 rear in either style were an adjustment. First couple starts I pulled my rear foot right out of it. I prefer the hrt because it’s simpler - no separate liner, it’s more durable, and I can get my foot back in If I crash. R rear no way I could get that back on in the water. That said they skied the same from my amateur point of view. My ski partner whose in double boots hated both 1/2 rear set ups on my ski because he lifts his heel at some points and felt he couldn’t get it back down, so to each his own. One note on the HRT, the front plate curvature doesn’t pair with the syndicate, so I had to grind the front of the plate to snug my rear foot behind the front boot. It was easy to do, just no returning it after that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ lpskier Posted February 8, 2020 Baller_ Share Posted February 8, 2020 If you like your RTP and just want to keep your heel on the ski, here is your quick, easy and cheap solution from Maharajah Water Skis. www.maharajah.com Lpskier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ lpskier Posted February 8, 2020 Baller_ Share Posted February 8, 2020 Whoa, that came out a little larger than I thought. Lpskier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller JBB Posted February 14, 2020 Author Baller Share Posted February 14, 2020 Thank you all for your input. I think i am leaning towards an HRT. can that binding be turned slightly to one side? I know that my RTP and the R-Style allow for that, but not sure about the HRT. Thanks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller oldjeep Posted February 14, 2020 Baller Share Posted February 14, 2020 HRT is on the same sort of plate as the Radar RTPs. And it does allow for some rotation. You can see the slots on the plate in this picture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller DavidN Posted February 14, 2020 Baller Share Posted February 14, 2020 Be aware that there are actually two versions of the HRT! The one pictured above is called the feather frame HRT. That boot is basically molded to the plate and can only be rotated by a tiny bit. The feather frame plate is shorter and has a Radar unique hole pattern, that (without modification) only fits Radar skis. The plate can be made to fit (to a certain extent) other skis, but I found it not optimal, as you are limited to fore and aft movement due to the short plate. https://www.perfski.com/ski/slaloms/waterski-bindings/radar-2020-hrt-boa-feather-frame-plate.html Better get the aluminum plate HRT, where the boot is mounted to the plate with 5 screws and is very adjustable. (You can rotate it, slide it forward or back on the plate and the plate itself can be pivoted on the ski as well.) The aluminum plate fits virtually every brand of ski. https://www.perfski.com/ski/slaloms/waterski-bindings/radar-2020-hrt-boa-aluminum-plate-standard.html The feather frame HRT’s are available in 3 different sizes, whereas the aluminum plate version is sadly only available in the std size (8-11 IIRC). Hope that helps. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller oldjeep Posted February 14, 2020 Baller Share Posted February 14, 2020 Why would you need a binding that fit something other than a radar ski? :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller JBB Posted February 14, 2020 Author Baller Share Posted February 14, 2020 @oldjeep ... because i have a Syndicate Omni.... ? :smiley: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jpattigr Posted February 18, 2020 Baller Share Posted February 18, 2020 @DavidN Looks like Radar has added a XL HRT on aluminum plate option for 2020. I am going to order one to try! https://radarskis.com/products/hrt-boa-boot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ The_MS Posted February 18, 2020 Baller_ Share Posted February 18, 2020 Do they make the BOA HRT on the aluminum plate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Sivota Posted February 18, 2020 Baller Share Posted February 18, 2020 @The_MS Yes, I have one. Mine is a standard size. The Radar website appears to show size options for the aluminium plate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ The_MS Posted February 18, 2020 Baller_ Share Posted February 18, 2020 I liked the The Feather frame but the plate gives me the ability to move the boot closer to my front boot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller JBB Posted February 24, 2020 Author Baller Share Posted February 24, 2020 ***UPDATE*** I purchased both, with the intent to return one or at a minimum to sell it on SIA. Both have arrived, and I wanted to have a sense of how each would feel. Though, overall I I liked the feel of the HRT better, there was a significant problem. Without modification to the binding (and therefore making it unreturnable) the hole alignment did not match that on my ski... so it is the R-Style for me. I have been looking at some of those how have modified the binding, should the one i bought cause any problems, after a couple of sets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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