Baller escmanaze Posted August 25, 2021 Baller Share Posted August 25, 2021 Hi Everybody, The Mastercraft marketing literature for 2021 said the wakes would be every bit as good as they had been since 2014. Are they? We now have two summers of experience on them. Let me know what you think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skimtb Posted August 26, 2021 Baller Share Posted August 26, 2021 I’ve only skied the new once once and is was a mess so can’t comment. 14-20 is nice. Should be the same wake. All that I believe was reported was they added the channel down the middle of the bottom to help w tracking. I believe the rest of running surface is the same, so should ski the same. The 21+ has some creature comforts that are really nice if you plan to have for a long time that would be worth considering. Great boat. Huge inside. Get one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted August 26, 2021 Administrators Share Posted August 26, 2021 @escmanaze there were many changes to the new boat but none that impact the slalom wakes. They are literally unchanged. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Moskier3ev Posted August 26, 2021 Baller Share Posted August 26, 2021 We’ve had our 21 about a month. The biggest difference in our 17 is the trick wake. It’s a lot better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Broussard Posted August 26, 2021 Baller Share Posted August 26, 2021 @Moskier3ev Do you prefer the trick wake on the 2014-2020 or 2021+? . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Roger Posted August 27, 2021 Baller Share Posted August 27, 2021 No difference between my 16 and the 21/22 wakes for slalom (at least at my loops/speed, 28 to 38, 32mph). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller GaryJanzig Posted August 27, 2021 Baller Share Posted August 27, 2021 No change in the wakes, but the pull feels stronger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller escmanaze Posted August 29, 2021 Author Baller Share Posted August 29, 2021 @Moskier3ev It's tough to imagine the trick wake getting better without the slalom wake, at least at like 24 or so getting worse. Depending on just how slow and just how longline we are talking though, that tradeoff might be worth it if it gets good again around 26. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Broussard Posted August 29, 2021 Baller Share Posted August 29, 2021 @escmanaze The issue with the trick wake on the previous hull was a lack of definition - not necessarily the wake size. Horton and I have the same feelings about trick... but from talking to some former world champions the new hull creates a trick wake with more definition at the peak or crest. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skimtb Posted August 29, 2021 Baller Share Posted August 29, 2021 @Broussard did the addition of the tracking slot down the middle of the hull make the trick wake improve or was other stuff done as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted August 29, 2021 Administrators Share Posted August 29, 2021 @Broussard the new shape at the center of the boat that helps with tracking presumably keeps the bow down a little more at trick speeds which in turn has changed the shape of the trick wake. Once the boat really gets further up on plane it's irrelevant to the wakes. ( educated speculation ) Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Broussard Posted August 29, 2021 Baller Share Posted August 29, 2021 @skimtb I'm no naval architect - nor have I studied the bottom of the two hulls side by side. I'm not sure what the causation is for the improvement of the trick wake, but the consensus is that the crest or peak of the wake is more defined . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Broussard Posted August 29, 2021 Baller Share Posted August 29, 2021 @Horton I'm not convinced that that is the cause since even with the MC trick system which added weight front to bring the nose down there was a lack of definition with the previous hull. (Comparing an unweighted 2021 to both weighted and unweighted '14-'20) I would bet that it has something to do with how the water flows off the edges of the hull/tracking rails/etc. Not sure of the exact cause - again I'm not a naval architect. Regardless the boat has a great slalom wake that is arguably just as good as the previous generation, drives worlds better, and as a bonus Eric Lee gets a better trick boat. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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