Baller BTheis Posted October 21, 2021 Baller Share Posted October 21, 2021 I’m going to get a new ski for next season and I’m curious on your thoughts. First a little insight, I currently ski on a Ho V type R and have been very happy with the ski. Last season I ran 22 @ 34 for the first time in about five years. Lots of physical issues separated shoulder, two new hips, complete torn bicep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skiinxs Posted October 21, 2021 Baller Share Posted October 21, 2021 My suggestion would be the C85. I have had several skiers try out the C85 over the last couple months at my lake. Most have bought one. Comments I have heard are: turns better than anything I have been on, faster than anything I have been on, easier to get up on, less effort - 8 passes felt like 4, more forgiving. I am pretty broken but did manage part of a 28 and 32 off pass and agree with the comments I have heard, my current ski is an Ion, which I absolutely love! I am buying one! Skiers were coming off of Radar, Goode, and D3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller darinmontgomery Posted October 21, 2021 Baller Share Posted October 21, 2021 I highly recommend the c85. Caldwell and Cord created a very special ski. The c85 is effortless, the most forgiving ski on the market. You will be skiing more passes with less impact on your body and as a result, adding buoys to your scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller JohnN Posted October 21, 2021 Baller Share Posted October 21, 2021 Agree with these comments. I got on a C85 mid-summer and it is easier on the body even when getting pretty crazy angles. Another bonus is being able to stay in passes even when things aren't going perfectly. Overall an awesome ski. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller DavidN Posted October 21, 2021 Baller Share Posted October 21, 2021 Care to elaborate why only these two skis/manufacturers are in the mix? There are a lot of great skis out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller BTheis Posted October 22, 2021 Author Baller Share Posted October 22, 2021 @DavidN I am very intrigued with Denali I met @adamhcaldwell before the Adam’s started their little company and was super impressed with his knowledge and willingness to share. As for HO I’ve always skied well on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Mose Posted October 22, 2021 Baller Share Posted October 22, 2021 I would say stick with what you know you said you like your old HO new one is probably better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ lpskier Posted October 22, 2021 Baller_ Share Posted October 22, 2021 If you alway do what you’ve always done, you’ll always get what you’ve always got. I’m a big C85 fan, having just switched from a Radar Vapor that I absolutely loved. Turns great, really goes side to side and really scraps when you need it to. I’m hugely impressed with this ski. Denali has a great try before you buy program. Contact Meg Deeley through the Denali website and she’ll get you set up for a demo. Lpskier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ The_MS Posted October 22, 2021 Baller_ Share Posted October 22, 2021 Stay on the V type and invest in some coaching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller dchristman Posted October 22, 2021 Baller Share Posted October 22, 2021 Get the C85, It is awesome! A 5 ball tournament PB on it for me this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ mike_mapple Posted October 22, 2021 Baller_ Share Posted October 22, 2021 if you are between two skis, the best option is to demo them, everyone skis different, which is why there are so many options. I do not know much about the 85, I do know both adams, so I am sure it is a great ski, just like I have known the guys at HO for a long time, and again a great ski. Just one will work better for you. I also do agree with @the_MS sometimes coaching is the way to go, but as someone who sells skis, give me a call if you go with the HO! Performance Ski and Surf Mike@perfski.com 👾 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skiinxs Posted October 22, 2021 Baller Share Posted October 22, 2021 @BTheis You should listen to @mike_mapple , he certainly knows his stuff. Ideally you should take a trip to FL and demo both skis at one of the many great ski schools. Win/win! You get warm weather, good instruction, and find out for yourself which works better for you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller CGSki Posted October 22, 2021 Baller Share Posted October 22, 2021 That's a lot of praise for the C85. Anyone skiing 34mph max on that ski? Is it meant for 36? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller S1Pitts Posted October 22, 2021 Baller Share Posted October 22, 2021 Yes ski works at 36mph. Go back and watch Caldwell skiing @ Malibu open. Not sure he could have done that on anything other than a C 85 as he and the ski is amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller B_S Posted October 22, 2021 Baller Share Posted October 22, 2021 @CGSki the C85 is a fantastic 34mph ski. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller customski Posted October 23, 2021 Baller Share Posted October 23, 2021 +1 for the Denali Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ lpskier Posted October 23, 2021 Baller_ Share Posted October 23, 2021 @CGSki Actually having gone into M7 this year, I’m skiing on it at 32. So it works great at 32, 34 and 36. Nothing against HO. I’ve skied the Alpha and Omega and thought they were both great skis, but the C85 really wowwed me, if that’s a word… Lpskier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Higleyskier Posted October 23, 2021 Baller Share Posted October 23, 2021 Coaching seems like great advice at this point. I once asked a neighbor and accomplished bicyclist for his thoughts when I was getting back into the sport. He advised me to use my old bike and ride for the foreseeable future. He said, “ I see a lot of riders with $5-10K bikes and 99 cent legs.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MDB1056 Posted October 23, 2021 Baller Share Posted October 23, 2021 +1 for coaching first. You need to ski well enough to be able to make a new ski perform well and to feel the differences. A new ski does nothing to change bad habits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller richfoster Posted October 23, 2021 Baller Share Posted October 23, 2021 Coaching is great, but I would think a new ski would make things easier. Btw,I like my C85! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Beezer Posted October 23, 2021 Baller Share Posted October 23, 2021 Im gonna throw this in for thought… if you are on a wide ski from HO the transition to a Denali could be difficult. The widths of the skis vary based on the weight of the skier. If you are on a wider ski from HO the Denali will feel very different. The C85 is my #1 ski in my quiver, its as fast as any, slows down easier, and turns cleaner (more forgiving when on the front) with poor posture, than any ski I’ve been on yet… however your dead if you get on the back of it! The Denali gave me a better Gas pedal and a better Break! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MDB1056 Posted October 24, 2021 Baller Share Posted October 24, 2021 So does buying a Porsche Turbo 911 automatically make you a better driver? Of course not. All your bad driving habits are simply carried forward. A well trained driver can get performance out of it you never could . Sure, buying a shiny new ski is fun….but even if you were to pick up a few buoys, it hasn’t somehow fixed all your issues. Learn to ski first, then apply those skills to a more refined weapon and you’ll get miles more performance out of it. What are you trying to be? A much better skier, or someone who just has a cool ski. Not trying to be mean here……. just real. If you were offered you a week with Corey Vaughn, or a new ski - which do you think would move the needle more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ lpskier Posted October 24, 2021 Baller_ Share Posted October 24, 2021 @MDB1056 All true, but I’d take the Porsche 911 Turbo over the driving lessons. Lpskier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller dchristman Posted October 24, 2021 Baller Share Posted October 24, 2021 A Ho might be fun but I'm hoping for a lasting relationship with the C85. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MDB1056 Posted October 24, 2021 Baller Share Posted October 24, 2021 @BTheis - last year C75 was all the rage.You can pick up nice ones now on SIA for $500. Get some lessons and in a year you’ll be able to pick up a C85 for $500, plus you’ll be a much better skier. Cost wise you’ll be neutral with what a new C85 would cost you now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller DaveD Posted October 27, 2021 Baller Share Posted October 27, 2021 @lpskier If you could afford the 911, then you should be able to afford the driving lesson. You wouldn't want to wrap that thing around a tree, would you? @BTheis Same advice, get the shinny new ski (either one) and spend some money on lessons. Everyone on this site could use some coaching (especially me). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ lpskier Posted October 28, 2021 Baller_ Share Posted October 28, 2021 @DaveD My bad. I thought @MDB1056 was giving me a Porsche. Now I’m bummed. Lpskier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller BTheis Posted October 28, 2021 Author Baller Share Posted October 28, 2021 I would like to thank everyone for your thoughts coaching always a great idea, not sure if my wife is ok with a new Porsche. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller BraceMaker Posted October 28, 2021 Baller Share Posted October 28, 2021 @BTheis how bout an old one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller BTheis Posted October 28, 2021 Author Baller Share Posted October 28, 2021 @BraceMaker love the older ones but their crazy expensive with this Covid-19 supply and demand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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