Administrators Horton Posted September 7, 2023 Administrators Share Posted September 7, 2023 Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MDB1056 Posted September 7, 2023 Baller Share Posted September 7, 2023 Trick question? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Mastercrafter Posted September 7, 2023 Baller Share Posted September 7, 2023 (edited) Brilliant idea. Assuming the adjustment screw can both push and pull the fin with little to no freeplay, and assuming it locks solid, say byebye to the 5/32 and fin-knocker. Imagine being able to change your fin in known increments in just seconds, even between passes while still in the water. Kind of like clicks on a rifle scope. I love it. edit to add that it looks like there's still three locking screws.. but still, great idea. Edited September 7, 2023 by Mastercrafter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skibrain Posted September 7, 2023 Baller Share Posted September 7, 2023 Looks like thumb wheels to adjust depth and length. Can’t see DFT detail but might be something going on there too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Drago Posted September 7, 2023 Baller Share Posted September 7, 2023 The tail is delaminating? the fin block is on backwards? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Mastercrafter Posted September 7, 2023 Baller Share Posted September 7, 2023 From Connelly's site: FIN Versafin Fin System w/aluminum foil *VersaFin allows the skier to adjust the fin up, down, forward and back on threaded mechanisms. Making it much easier to accurately make fin adjustments. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller thager Posted September 7, 2023 Baller Share Posted September 7, 2023 (edited) Connelly is making it easier for Dirt to screw with your ski!!!!!😅 Edited September 7, 2023 by thager Spelling 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Wish Posted September 7, 2023 Baller_ Share Posted September 7, 2023 Thought there was a rule that fins could not be adjusted between passes at a tournament? Had to be a fixed wing/fin? Wasn’t this one/kind not allowed?? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ MISkier Posted September 7, 2023 Baller_ Share Posted September 7, 2023 @Wish, I believe the rule was that the fin could not move during a pass and must remain fixed during the actual pass. I think they were trying to eliminate some sort of automatic steering or other mechanism that would be a real-time aid to the skier. 1 The worst slalom equipment I own is between my ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ MISkier Posted September 7, 2023 Baller_ Share Posted September 7, 2023 The AWSA rule book references IWSF rule 5.08, which is: 5.08: Skis a) Maximum ski width shall not exceed 30 percent of the overall length for jump and slalom skis and 35 percent of the overall length for trick skis. b) Any type of fixed foot bindings may be used. c) Devices affixed to the ski intended to control or adjust the skiing characteristics of the ski are allowed if they are fixed so that they do not move or change during actual skiing. d) No other devices are permitted. e) Skis must be safe. There must be no unnecessary sharp or abrasive (to the touch) metal, wood or other attachments to the ski which could, in the opinion of the Safety Director, inflict injury to the skier should he come in contact with the ski in a fall. f) Attaching two separate skis together in any manner is prohibited. 1 The worst slalom equipment I own is between my ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller kmenard Posted September 7, 2023 Baller Share Posted September 7, 2023 Looks like a tool in my brothers wood shop 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Wish Posted September 7, 2023 Baller_ Share Posted September 7, 2023 🤔 So theoretically, you could reach down and adjust a fin as needed between passes. Interesting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller BobF Posted September 7, 2023 Baller Share Posted September 7, 2023 Great! Just what my inner-tweaker needs - a way to finagle even when I hide my tools from myself. 😃 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ForrestGump Posted September 7, 2023 Baller Share Posted September 7, 2023 what's the other side look like, though? Are there set screws there to clamp it after you use the wheels to adjust it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted September 8, 2023 Author Administrators Share Posted September 8, 2023 does anybody have a picture of that mid-80s system where when you lifted your rear heel the wing went to 9° and when you step down it went to zero? This new Connelly fin block is not intended for you to adjust in the water between passes. So far I've only seen the early prototype, but I'll have one to unbox in a couple of days. should be pretty cool. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller liquid d Posted September 8, 2023 Baller Share Posted September 8, 2023 The Patent finally ran out on the Dynafoil? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller LeonL Posted September 8, 2023 Baller Share Posted September 8, 2023 (edited) Great, but can it be used on other brands? Is it patented or will other mfgs start building these? How small are the adjustment increments? I guess @Horton will have some of these answers soon. Edited September 8, 2023 by LeonL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted September 8, 2023 Author Administrators Share Posted September 8, 2023 @LeonL I don't know about the patents. I don't believe that the Connelly version will work on other brands of skis without significant retrofit. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Wish Posted September 8, 2023 Baller_ Share Posted September 8, 2023 If it’s really functional, I hope the come out with an aftermarket version. I’d be interested. And they get to sell more product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller LeonL Posted September 8, 2023 Baller Share Posted September 8, 2023 I wonder how small the adjustment increments are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Drago Posted September 8, 2023 Baller Share Posted September 8, 2023 My guess is it's threaded, not notched Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ DW Posted September 8, 2023 Baller_ Share Posted September 8, 2023 if just a spin wheel, same as always, at worse quarter turn appears to be the star wheel configuration if they are using them to allow the fin to be unlocked in the block. If that is the case, and I can reach down and adjust on the fly, I will be thinking as I approach the gates "was that clockwise or counterclockwise to add tip???" 😨 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller 1skinut Posted September 8, 2023 Baller Share Posted September 8, 2023 Someone please add pictorial instructions to the fin block settings: ski wheelie, Superman flying out the front of a ski, etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Mateo_Vargas Posted September 9, 2023 Baller Share Posted September 9, 2023 Where do the padlocks go so your good friends aren't tempted to help with adjustments? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skiboyny Posted September 9, 2023 Baller Share Posted September 9, 2023 Great skis don't really need "gadgets" Whenever the manufactures add them they seem short lived. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ lpskier Posted September 9, 2023 Baller_ Share Posted September 9, 2023 Wait. My Power Stix don’t work??? WTF! 2 2 Lpskier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller LeonL Posted September 9, 2023 Baller Share Posted September 9, 2023 Actually I don't see that as a gadget due to a shortcoming of a ski. It seems to me to be very beneficial for fin adjustments. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MDB1056 Posted September 9, 2023 Baller Share Posted September 9, 2023 Looks to simply be a convenience 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted September 12, 2023 Author Administrators Share Posted September 12, 2023 1 Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller APB Posted September 12, 2023 Baller Share Posted September 12, 2023 Would this not have potential to vibrate/ move?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ETskier Posted September 12, 2023 Baller Share Posted September 12, 2023 That fin block looks interesting. DFT mechanism looks way better. Not that I would be capable, but it looks like you could climb in the boat, make a quick adjustement, no hammering, and go back out there without using calipers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ lpskier Posted September 12, 2023 Baller_ Share Posted September 12, 2023 @ETskier Why cant you do that with a T handle Allen wrench? Folks I ski with do it all the time. If you are fine tuning, calipers are required for precise measurements, but if you’re just trying something, eye ball it. On my fin clamp, about 22 degrees of rotation is about .005 of adjustment. Get to know your gear and you can do a lot on the platform. One time I was skiing with @adamhcaldwell We were working on my settings. I climbed on the platform and Adam said “Why don’t you try moving your fin forward.” I said “Okay, how far” given that I run my fin kind of far back at .690. He said:”I don’t know. Try all the way.” That was probably the largest single move I ever made. The move didn’t pan out, but i ran -32. Moral of the story: Don’t be afraid to make a big move and you don’t need calipers to do it. 4 1 1 Lpskier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Wish Posted September 12, 2023 Baller_ Share Posted September 12, 2023 I like it !! Once again a company thinking outside the box. Bravo Connelly bravo 👏 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Drago Posted September 12, 2023 Baller Share Posted September 12, 2023 Why is there do much pushback on this? What's wrong with making it easier or more convenient? 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Mose Posted September 12, 2023 Baller Share Posted September 12, 2023 It should be a interesting review I look forward to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skialex Posted September 12, 2023 Baller Share Posted September 12, 2023 @lpskier when using a t handle Allen wrench, adding like 0.005 is easier and you can be about right. Removing some… is a lot trickier. Connelly’s mechanism looks that it can move the fin in and out with some precision. It’s cool and if it works, others will follow and make some of their own, same or better… or who knows… innovation is cool 😎 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller gavski Posted September 12, 2023 Baller Share Posted September 12, 2023 Be interesting to know if you can: A: retrofit/ swap out your old fin block B: use any ‘other’ fin, or does it only work with the supplied fin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller BraceMaker Posted September 12, 2023 Baller Share Posted September 12, 2023 10 hours ago, APB said: Would this not have potential to vibrate/ move?? Still has a clamp feature from what I can see its basically a standard fin box with 3 clamp screws to secure the fin in place (red boxes). But then the DFT set screw/grub screw has a turned down area that sits into a slot in a block (Green box) that slides inside the fin box that is threaded to support the rear most turn screw (green arrow). The front one may also float, but it probably does this independently as you can see how the bulk of the clamp reduces after that screw. I cannot tell if the it in the green box supports the bit by the green arrow. However from what's pictured you'd still have to loosen the fin "conventionally" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ lpskier Posted September 12, 2023 Baller_ Share Posted September 12, 2023 Hey, I got the new emoji! I’m a first! Lpskier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ lpskier Posted September 12, 2023 Baller_ Share Posted September 12, 2023 @skialex I’m a Connelly fan and skied on their skis for years. And the new fin clamp is very cool, though I just haven’t seen it in action. But you don’t need a special clamp (or calipers) to make adjustments on the platform when you are experimenting. 1 Lpskier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ swbca Posted September 13, 2023 Baller_ Share Posted September 13, 2023 (edited) Re compatibility with other brands. The inserts in skis for the fin blocks are not entirely standardized. I tried a D3 Fin Block on a KD ski and the insert spacing was not the same. In another thread @Horton says there is fin block compatibility between some manufactures but not all. Fins are not always standardized either. With D3 and KD the cutouts in the fin for the clamp bolts are spaced differently preventing full DFT adjustment if you try swapping fins between blocks. This incompatibility can fixed by modifying the clamp bolt cutouts on the fin. Edited September 13, 2023 by swbca Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller UWSkier Posted September 13, 2023 Baller Share Posted September 13, 2023 Would be cool if these were clickers like you have on high end powersports shocks for compression and rebound damping. Oh, conditions are rough out there and the risk of stuffing the tip on a roller is high, remove two clicks of tip engagement. Water's cold and ski's not smearing? Add two or three clicks of smear. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted September 13, 2023 Author Administrators Share Posted September 13, 2023 This new block will only fit 2024 or later Connelly skis. 1 Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Wish Posted September 13, 2023 Baller_ Share Posted September 13, 2023 Well, maybe they will see success and produce aftermarket blocks. How many diff hole patters are there for the various manufacturers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted September 14, 2023 Author Administrators Share Posted September 14, 2023 Here it is... Versafin Fin System from Connelly skis 3 3 Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ lpskier Posted September 14, 2023 Baller_ Share Posted September 14, 2023 Re compatibly with other brands: Fins come in different thicknesses and one company’s thicker fin may not fit in another company’s thinner fin slot. Lpskier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted September 14, 2023 Author Administrators Share Posted September 14, 2023 @lpskier the bigger issue is the insert hole pattern. Fin thickness is a thing but that is easy to deal with. In this case the big deal is that the mechanism protrudes under the clamp and requires the cut outs. 1 Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jcamp Posted September 14, 2023 Baller Share Posted September 14, 2023 Really cool design. Great to see a company innovating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Blofeld Posted September 14, 2023 Baller_ Share Posted September 14, 2023 I would like one for my Maha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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