Administrators Horton Posted March 29 Administrators Share Posted March 29 After further review, I realize that the data on Wikipedia is complete crap. This is a waste of time. Whoever created this data should short-sided at every ball on every slalom pass for the rest of their lives. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Masters_Water_Ski_Tournament_champions#Champions https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Water_Ski_World_Championships_champions https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Moomba_Masters_champions The data on the intertubes is not the best. I am moderately confident the below list is complete and accurate. I am currently wrestling with a version of how many total titles each skier has and then ranked from most to least. My confidence in online source water ski data was fair until I realized that whoever created the Masters Results page thought that Ana Maria Carrasco & Maria Victoria Carrasco were the same person. If you know your history you know they are sisters. I can't know what other errors are in the source data and have not found better data sets. Making this more confusing are skiers whose names appear differently in different data sets. Examples are Carlos Suárez vs Carlos Suarez / Whitney McClintock Rini vs Whitney McClintock / William Asher vs Will Asher / Fred Winter vs Fredrick Winter and my favorite Natalia Berdnikava vs Natallia Berdnikava. Messy data makes using simple Excel vlookups problematic, to say the least. Anyhow below is the gross list of all the skiers who have at least one title Slalom, Trick, Jump, or Overall from Masters, Moomba, and Worlds. Alan Kempton Ana María Carrasco Andy Mapple Anna Gay Bob LaPoint Britt Larsen Bruce Neville Carlos Suárez Cindy Todd Cory Pickos Deena Mapple Elena Milakova Emma Sheers Erika Lang Freddie Winter Freddy Krueger George Athans Helena Kjellander Jacinta Carroll Jaret Llewellyn Jimmy Jackson Jimmy Siemers Karen Neville Kristi Overton-Johnson Liz Allan Mandy Nightingale Manon Costard Mike Hazelwood Mike Suyderhoud Natalia Berdnikava Nate Smith Neilly Ross Nicolas le Forestier Patrice Martin Patricio Font Regina Jaquess Ricky McCormick Ryan Dodd Sammy Duvall Thomas Degasperi Wayne Grimditch Whitney McClintock Rini Will Asher It is not going to be me but it would be amazing if someone in the sport with some basic data skills and some free time could audit and clean up the historical data on the internet. I would be happy to host the results and or be happy if the Wikipedia data was updated and corrected. Maybe it should be a task for https://www.usa-wwf.org/hall-of-fame or https://iwwf.sport/international-hall-of-fame/ Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller pcmcon729 Posted March 29 Baller Share Posted March 29 @Horton This is super cool info. Lots of amazing skiers of the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller BKistler Posted March 29 Baller Share Posted March 29 Interesting. My first impression is how short the list is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller buechsr Posted March 29 Baller Share Posted March 29 Scot Ellis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted March 29 Author Administrators Share Posted March 29 @BKistler I sort of had the opposite reaction. 43 skiers who have won at least one Worlds, Masters, and a Moomba? It is pretty rare air. The names missing are also interesting. Geoff Carrington, Dorien Llewellyn, Brett Thurley, & Kim Laskoff all have a Worlds and Moomba but not a Masters. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller mbabiash Posted March 29 Baller Share Posted March 29 Surely Wade cox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted March 29 Author Administrators Share Posted March 29 @buechsr My data says Scot has 3 Moomba titles but no Masters or World title. @mbabiash nope Wade has 2 Masters but no World or Moomba Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller mbabiash Posted March 29 Baller Share Posted March 29 Dang. Parrish? I know he’s won masters and Moomba and thought worlds. Never mind 2nd is best worlds crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted March 29 Author Administrators Share Posted March 29 This is an odd triple crown. Worlds - All the top skiers are there so the competition is the deepest. Happens every other year. Masters - Hardest to enter. Smallest field but is generally only the very best skiers. Moomba - By far the easiest to enter but is by far the most expensive to attend unless you live in Oz. Generally not as many super elite skiers per event. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller buechsr Posted March 29 Baller Share Posted March 29 23 minutes ago, Horton said: @buechsr My data says Scot has 3 Moomba titles but no Masters or World title. @mbabiash nope Wade has 2 Masters but no World or Moomba I show Scot won Masters in 98…I can’t find a worlds though you’re right. Brenda Nichols Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted March 29 Author Administrators Share Posted March 29 @buechsr I see Jaret winning in 98 but like I said in the original post i have doubts about my source data quality. Do you have a link? Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller buechsr Posted March 29 Baller Share Posted March 29 19 minutes ago, Horton said: @buechsr I see Jaret winning in 98 but like I said in the original post i have doubts about my source data quality. Do you have a link? https://nautique.com/article/dockside-chats-scot-ellis Either way, I don’t see a worlds. It would appear Brenda belongs for sure: https://www.usa-wwf.org/Hall-of-Fame/brenda-nichols-baldwin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted March 29 Author Administrators Share Posted March 29 After further review, I realize that the data on Wikipedia is complete crap. This is a waste of time. Whoever created this data should short-sided at every ball on every slalom pass for the rest of their lives. Their trick rides should be driven in jump mode and their jump drivers should go left at the bottom of the ramp. @buechsr Ellis at Masters in 1998 was SkiFly not jump. I am still over this. 2 Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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