@brooks At 6'2 210 lbs you recommend a 67 for @OKSkier I`m 5,6 165 lbs and was always on a 66 ski. When i bought my senate a few years back I was torn between getting a 65 or 67. The majority of opinions on BOS to my question was go with the 67 saying you can make a longer ski ski shorter but you cant make a short ski ski longer. It just seemed the 67 was too long for me in turns. I am now on a 2016 66 lithium vapor. But sometimes I feel it`s too much ski for me at 30 mph. I always wonder if I should have went with the 65 senate. Also the fin on my 67 senate is stock setting. How far forward would you move to make it feel shorter? I might give it a try again. Thanks.