Obrienslalom

Matt, we met a Corey's recently. I'm sure you watched me ski...so you know what a hack I am and you shouldn't take my advice. I have focused on achieving that stack position 'through' the wakes over the years. I'm not convinced that is worth it. I'm pretty sure you can all but stand up at the wakes and make it through the course at the beginner speeds/lengths we are working on. Seems much more important to connect with the rope and generate enough speed to not feel like you need to pull again after the wake. I think watching our own videos, it seems like the most glaring problem so we fixate on it (and we recognize there is a fear factor to it that we assume we just need to overcome). Watch these youtube videos and use ',' and '.' keys to go frame by frame. You'll see that you don't need to necessary "lean" through the wake. At least not to the extreme I had in my head. Happy to be wrong. I'm a beginner too...

Yes. The risk would be I'm not sitting around during the broadcast. If it were available after the fact, I would pay $10 to access it even if the results were 'spoiled'

For me, I ski early in the morning and maybe late evening. The rest of the day I use the boat to be out on the water with family/friends. Really have simple requirements for a direct drive to meet this need: -Open bow -Full bench style seat in the back for my wife to suntan on -somewhere to stow skis, and lifejackets/bags for all passengers The engine in the middle really isn't a problem for us. I'm more in favor of a crossover direct drive.

When I was young and single I did all my poos at work. I would have had no good gauge for how much I needed if I couldn't go to work...

Hahah, well I'm glad I put minimal effort into working on something. Didn't know everyone would be creeped out by it!

A couple of years ago, I looked at predicting human poses from an image and/or video. It turned out to be more effort than I was willing to put in at the time (especially for water skiing, since there is a lot of noise and occlusion via ropes and spray). Anyway, it led me to follow a few people's work in the space, specifically Michael Black's work: https://github.com/mkocabas/VIBE I ran his latest project on a clip from the 'Terry Winter at Quarter Speed' video from Horton's channel. Out of the box, this performed amazing well. Also, there isn't any specific training towards this type of movement. Very promising in my opinion. I also tested it against some random clips from youtube, but I won't subject randoms to this discussion. Since this is in quarter speed, and very well zoomed in, I assumed it would be much better. Honestly, it's better in some areas, but much more jittery for some reason. Here is the result: You can find a ton of work in various sports doing this sort of thing. From the tracked joint data you can do a lot of automated analysis or comparisons between runs. It's also interesting to see the 3D pose, since we rarely get that view in this sport. Thoughts?

I have a 2006 206, and had an OEM Flight Control Design tower put on through new dimension towers. Not positive this will match exactly what you are looking at. My bimini collapses into two canvas rolls, each by releasing 2 pins and then clipping the polls to the main rack. There are 4 more pins to remove the bimini completely. I only collapse it if I need to collapse the entire rack forward. Otherwise, I typically just roll up the canvase and put the boot on it. In your lift, do you need to collapse the rack at all? I typically don't, I just position the rack between the beams in our roof. I can't compare the wake to the 196, but 22 is fairly bumpy on the 2006 206. I'm a 15 off skier, but was told to occasionally ski 22 off to get the feeling of the swing better. I skipped to 28 off, because the bump at 22 was a tad silly. I do really love the boat though. For me the extra space and seating is essential. I don't know what I'll do if I ever need to replace it. Nothing else seems to fit the bill.

We probably need to toss a course on the public side of Lake Anna. Who's in?

A lake I grew up swimming in used to get it from goose and duck poop. We stopped feeding them around where we swam. Toweling off to the point of slight pain was the best prevention for us If you got it, we used to get clear nail polish and paint the red marks. I guess it suffocated whatever caused it, and it went away much faster

I've gotten some weird looks in meetings from my coffee mug ?

The SafeSport report details allegations that date from 2012. The organization’s hands were effectively tied, an investigator wrote in the report, and SafeSport couldn’t enforce rules that weren’t on the books at the time. SafeSport could hold Smith accountable only for laws he broke or USA Water Ski policies he violated. “Indeed, his conduct would clearly constitute sexual misconduct under the Code today,” the investigator wrote at one point in the report, “however the Code did not apply in 2013.” @skidawg If the act was illegal or against the organization's/association's code of conduct at the time, SafeSport could prosecute. I don't think it is arbitrary. Sometimes it takes quite a bit for something to be illegal under law. So they may be left with whatever the USA Water Ski policies had captured as inappropriate. My understanding is that SafeSport establishes a set of rules across the board so the burden of defining the correct policies don't fall on each disparate organization. There are a slew of things that we can all agree are inappropriate, albeit technically legal. Capturing those things into an umbrella policy hopefully helps get things right. Retroactively enforcing laws and policies is a subject on it's own, but as it stands...they can't.

Throw my name in the hat. All my stuff is typically at Lake Anna, but am interested. I live in NoVA, and commute around that area frequently.

What happened during Corey's run last night? I'm guessing that was hard to be taken out of rhythm, but I didn't catch why the boat stopped...

Got the boat launched, and first set for my wife and I in Virginia! Also got my 6 month old daughter out on the boat for the first time!

Was hoping this would be more like a trolling motor. Something about bring the inboard boat near cover never felt like a good idea...

Is the story behind CP's Nautique deal public knowledge? What happened there?

I was looking around the same budget and requirements as you a few years back. I ended up with a 2006 nautique 206. I was between that and an LXI. Really came down to what was available in good condition. I'm very happy with the 206, for slalom and cruising. Never saw or test skied the outback, so it fell off my radar.

Haven't tried it for skiing, but does an awesome job taking boat footage before and after. I'm in public water, so random waves always make videos look terrible. I guess I'm comparing shots with waves, not 'high frequency shaking', but they seem super smooth. One feature that's interesting to me more than the shaking is whether the smooth panning along the xaxis would help on something like a wakeeye. It's kept up fairly well on the few handheld tests my wife had done with friends, but nobody is skiing at course speeds. You can normally turn that axis off, but it may solve some of the aggressive yanking during the turn. I have a hohem isteady for my GoPro 5 (<$100 gimbal). Mine has a joystick control, which wouldn't do a good job at all for skiing, too slow. The idea behind the GoPro 7 is that you don't need a gimbal. Curious how well that works too.

Imagine all companies decided to stop R&D right now, and just keep the interior of the boat modern. The fear would be one company releases something truly better (not necessarily innovative), and the rest would concede the market. Reputation, sponsorship, and advertising probably matter more than market size. How much is actually spent on R&D? Is it disproportional to the market size compared to wakeboard/wake surf boats? I'm not sure wakeboarding boats R&D is/was dramatically more rewarding than ski boats. The discipline changed to surfing, so there were opportunities there, and the size/interior of the boats matter more. But is hull design so much different between those boats? What I'm getting at is I'm not convinced that slalom R&D is unproductive, even if your opinion is that we haven't seen a significant improvement in performance over a long span of time.

I showed pictures to my wife as a possible future replacement for the family open water replacement (for our Nautique 206). Her reaction, "where do you store stuff?". If they are leaning more towards targeting the multisport/family crowd, removing the saddle bags looks good...but does force me to use the only storage for my ski. Appreciate something focused on this market, and hoping to see more! I think the boat looks great.

Put your own over them? :| Ive used WD-40 on cars to remove those super annoying dealer stickers. Never damaged the paint.

You could move: https://www.instagram.com/p/BnW5vBnAdK4

I live in Sterling, VA. I ski on Lake Anna, and just visited Corey's spot for the first time last week (which was awesome). I agree with the above, everywhere is going to be about 2 hours away.

I use a GoPro 5 on a wakeeye. It works easy enough. The only issue is zoom leaves something to be desired. You can't get that clear of a picture at 60 fps. I normally shoot at 2k and then zoom in to 1080p. I guess you can shoot 4k at 60 fps on the GoPro 6 and zoom into 2k or really zoom in to 1080p and hopefully get a good shot. Some people have gotten a lens with success, I need to try that still. I have some samples on: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCglHcZOaGq3c3o8bS3HKpEw

I don't know the answer, but I will share that my wife pulled her hamstring trying to get up on a slalom the first time last year. This year she put her rear foot in and feels that's the answer for her. That along with a slightly more aggressive idle drag before throwing it in the hole worked great for her.