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Couple interesting things for sale in Alberta: ;) First of all, an O'Brien "Salomon" ski :D https://kijiji.ca/v-water-sport/edmonton/salomon-water-ski-obrien/1422125605 And even more interesting, a HO Triumph "Solemn Ski" :p https://kijiji.ca/v-water-sport/red-deer/triumph-ho-mfg-67-solemn-ski/1427338489

@Skijay, you can see he's got tons of tip pressure on both sides if you freeze the video as he rounds the 5 and 6 balls at about 18 and 20 seconds. No wheelies happening there!

@Horton Don't you think that you might be a lot more consistent than you are at 38 and into 39 if you had been able to stay on one ski that you really liked for an entire season instead of always having to change things in your technique to adjust to the quirks and idiosyncracies of all these different skis that you've been testing and reviewing over the years? I mean it must be fun and very interesting to be able to try all of these great skis that you get to review but don't you ever wish you could just stay skiing on whatever ski is your favorite and really get dialed into it by skiing on it for an extended period of time instead of always having to get used to different skis often times with very different characteristics?

@AdamCord @adamhcaldwell How much effect do these fins have at speeds slower than 34 mph, say 30 - 32 mph? Are the effects of the asymetrical holes more or less noticeable at slower speeds?

@Jody_Seal For a second I thought the guy in the pic was using one of those one-handed tow rope handles like Willa is in the Mercury poster but upon closer examination I can see that it's one of those old-school split handle tow ropes he's using. I know some people were using tow rpes like at the lake when I was a kid but I can't remember if I ever tried one. I probably did but just can't remember doing it. It seems like it was a long, long time ago... I can imagine it was a real PITA trying to get a hold of one of those handles if you ever happened to drop one while skiing. The thing would keep bouncing off the water and would be really hard to grab a hold of.

Just giving this a bump to see if anyone else might be interested in these. Along with the digital files, I provide instructions for having them printed at VistaPrint and links to some nice, reasonably priced decent quality frames on Amazon so you won't have to spend any of your valuable time figuring out how to get them printed and finding frames to display them in. These are great for displaying in your ski cabin, workshop, mancave, etc. They might also be great for a ski club or even a ski store maybe. ski-it-again.com/php/skiitagain.php?endless=summer&topic=Search&category=Misc&postid=50057

@"Keith Menard" It's actually pretty easy if you're using a RTP but it's both a timing and a driving thing. I did it for many years starting back when I was a kid but haven't done it since I went to using a full back boot. Now I just slide off the dock as the rope gets tight and deep water start. You can't really even do that where they are in the video 'cause it's so shallow. I know that some people can do it with a full back boot but I've never really tried it. Maybe once I did but I'm sure it was an epic fail 'cause I've never really thought about trying it again.

Damn, that was funny! :lol:

It's also a little known fact that in case of an engine/lift-off failure in the Eagle effectively leaving him and Armstrong stranded on the moon, it was Aldrin's back-up plan to pole vault back up to the command module. :p

I thought as much. The fact that NO kryptonite is being used anywhere in the construction of Denali skis or fins gives additional evidence to this. ;)

I posted the following on another thread but I think it's appropriate to repost it here with some edits: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I've skied for over 40 years and have not once ever gone through a slalom course. I ski open water but am still as passionate and in love with skiing as I was back when I was a boy absolutely determined to get up on one ski for the first time. I don't know if I'll ever get to run a course or ski on a Denali or try a CG or Whisperfin but I can feel and can't help but get caught up in everyone's excitement and anticipation over all the changes these great innovators are bringing about. It seems as though we're on the cusp of an entirely new era where just about everything is about to undergo rapid and significant change. If you think about snow skis, they went for decades with the old straight skinny ski design and year-to-year changes finally got to where advances were generally always microscopic and incremental. Then, all of a sudden, shaped skis hit the market and boom EVERYTHING changed. The pace at which advances were made and changes ocurred was incredibly fast after that. It seems like we're just on the cusp of something like that in water skiing and innovators like @AdamCord, @adamhcaldwell and @SkiJay are leading the way with radically new fin and ski designs. It seems like this is going to be a really important period in the history of the sport. It should be quite an adventure. :) Thank you, @AdamCord, @adamhcaldwell and @SkiJay for what you're doing for the sport and for all of us who will ultimately benefit from your pioneering spirit, drive, passion, curiousity and determination. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Edit: I would add to this that I predict that we're going to not only see a number of records fall to skiers using the Whisperfin and the Denali C-75/CG/Fin combo and the CG Fin on other skis this year and over the next few years, we'll also see a lot of other skiers achieving new PBs and higher averages, etc., using the revolutionary new equipment these remarkable innovators are just beginning to get to market. My gut feeling is that this new equipment is so new and so different, it'll take those who start using it a fair while to really get used to it and get their skiing and settings dialed in to the point where the full potential of these innovations will be fully realized and understood. While there are lots of favorable reports coming in on the new gear right now, it's still early, early days and the true impact of all these amazing innovations is still a long ways off from being known. And even though I'm just a 31 - 33 mph open water skier with far more passion than ability and may never have the opportunity or occasion to try any of this new gear (or even run a slalom course), I'm very much caught up in the excitement over what changes and achievements these new innovations will bring. With all that said, I would totally agree, this is a VERY exciting and probably historically important time for the sport. I can't wait to see what happens. :)

@Chris Rossi Thanks for that. I should've looked there to begin with but I just assumed the settings for a ski that old wouldn't still be up there. It appears I shouldn't underestimate the kind of customer service that Radar Skis provides. ;) We'll start on the stock settings but if anyone has some alternative numbers to recommend, we'll certainly be keen to give 'em a go as well. ;)

A while ago I posted that I was looking for a deal for a 20-something y.o. friend of mine looking for a decent older 68" or 69" ski but was on a tight budget. Thanks to everyone who responded with offers to help with some very generous offers. After mush deliberation, he ended up going with a 2014 69" Radar Senate Graphite and a set of Radar Profile bindings. Now I'm wondering if anyone has some setup numbers he could try on that rig. Also wondering what the stock settings are for that year/ski. For some of you, I imagine, this might require digging up and blowing the dust off an old note book or two but maybe there are a few still out there riding one of those sticks. Any help would be appreciated.

We should start a pool on how long it takes until the first world record falls to a skier on a Denali C-75. ;) I've never run a course in my life and don't know if I'll ever have that opportunity but I'm sure caught up in the excitement over all of this. These are exciting times for sure. :smile:

@AdamCord, that looked easy. Based on yours and @adamhcaldwell's videos I've decided that if I ever get to run a course, I'll start at 38' off. It looks so easy. ;)

@adamhcaldwell @AdamCord I understand your gear is optimized for and/or targeted at 34 mph course skiers but I'm curious to know what would/could your CG fin and/or CG Fin C75 combination have to offer a 31 - 33 mph skier? Do the advantages of your designs only really start to appear at higher speeds or are they still noticeable at slower speeds? And what about longer line lengths like 22' off? Has anybody been testing your stuff at lower speeds/longer line lengths? What about for a free/open water skier? I know it's hard to quantify benefit or performance gain on an open water skier because you don't have number of bouys made at X rope length to use as a yardstick so think more in terms of what's important to us free skiers; stability & foregiveness, easier to crank wicked turns, gettin' lower, throwin' bigger spray, impressin' the ladies and all that good stuff ;) I generally ski 31 - 33 mph at 22' off although I'm thinking of giving 28' off a go this year just for grins.

I'm right handed, right foot dominant but ski LFF. I throw, golf and bat right handed, shoot left handed in hockey and hold the waterski handle left handed. I also wakeboard LFF (normal). For me, skiing LFF vs RFF was night and day. When I first tried dropping a ski I tried dropping my left ski and could only go about 10 feet before face planting on each of three or four tries. Then I tried dropping the right and instantly went several hundred yards on one foot trying to find that elusive back pocket/rtp with my back foot. In hockey, the majority of right handed people shoot left and, of course the majority of people are right handed. That means there are always more skilled NHL calibre left handed shots vs right handed so right wingers and right defencemen are always harder to come by. It makes you wonder why in field hockey they make everyone shoot right.

When the change was made to what we have now it was all done in meters off. There is no true 15'/22'/28'/32'/35'/41' or 43' off, those are just the closest numbers when you convert back to feet off from meters. @scotchipman thanks for clearing this up. I couldn't understand how a 0.5 m change in rope length resulted in a 2 foot off increment when 2 feet is 0.60 m, not 0.50. Now I get it. Just one thing though: It's METRES not meters. (just like Litres not Liters) ;) I kind of agree that at such a short rope length, going from 10.25 m to 9.75 m is too much of a jump. Maybe dropping to 0.25 m increments after 10.25 m is a better way to go and would make the competitions more interesting as there may be more people who could at least get part way into 10.0 m but can't get much of anywhere into 9.75 m. Not sure what that would mean for the logistics of tournaments but it might make things more interesting and exciting for the spectators.

@adamhcaldwell I can't believe how easy you make those 32, 35, 38 and 39 off passes look. And you're the same height as me! I've never run a course in my life but based on how bloody easy it looks in your videos I'm pretty sure I could get through 39' off on my first or second try. How hard can it be? ;) I might need one of your skis and fins though. ;)

@AdamCord @adamhcaldwell Have you applied or are you applying for any patents on any of the things you've designed/invented? You don't have to say what you've applied for patents on if that's confidential; I'm just curious to know if you're actively going after patents on any of your innovations/ideas. I'm no patent lawyer but I would guess that some of the innovations you've come up with are patentable and if some of them do turn out to be real game changers, those patents could become very important and valuable things. P.S. Great skiing @adamhcaldwell. I run 41' off every time I ski (in my imagination) so I know just how challenging and satisfying it is to run it. ;) What impresses me is how much momentum and speed you're able to bleed off rounding the ball and then how bloody fast the ski accelerates coming out of the turn and how quickly it gets you across the wakes and all the way out to the ball line with time to spare ahead of the next ball. It's really quite impressive. The C75 seems to have the handling, braking, acceleration and speed of a premium F1 race car. If it's got all that AND is also user friendly and foregiving of errors in technique then you've really got a winner there. I'm tippin' my hat to you.

@Andre and @aspski You guys just don't get it. This is not some ordinary run-of-the-mill 20 year obsolete waterski; THIS is a HIGH PERFORMANCE slalom waterski! A real bargoon at just $750 CAD. I'm surprised someone hasn't snapped it up already. ;)

@aspski I saw that ad too. Had a good chuckle. :p

@Kentjacobsen92 The Senate Graphite is similar to the Omni Carbon in terms of construction at least. Both are a carbon fibre layup over a PU core. The Senate Lithium is similar to the Syndicate Omni in that they are carbon fibre layups over a much lighter and more responsive PVC core. The Senate Pro has an even lighter and more responsive PMI core. HO doesn't offer an equivalent to that. AFIK, the Senate Alloy is now a full carbon layup (it used to be a blend with fibreglass) over a PU core but I think there may also be some wood stringers in the core that the Senate Graphite doesn't have? Otherwise, I don't think it's a whole lot different than the Graphite except the Alloy doesn't come with a fully adjustable fin whereas the Graphite does and the Alloy may be a bit softer flex but don't take that as gospel. Maybe someone could chime in on that. If you're looking at the Omni Carbon or it's closest Senate rival then I would suggest you look at the Graphite rather than the Alloy as that would compare most closely to the Omni Carbon in terms of build and features. If you're thinking of maybe throwing more dinero out there then maybe consider either the Senate Lithium or the Syndicate Omni as they are similar builds.

All the parts in the package came in this bag perhaps indicating it was Canada Post that committed the atrocity. I somehow feel that when you absolutely crush a friggin' steel post it requires more explanation and more of an apology than this

This is new from a dealer and in your price range. ski-it-again.com/php/skiitagain.php?endless=summer&topic=Search&category=Slalom&postid=50194 You can also get this one for way under your budget: ($299) https://skipro.com/wake-water-ski/waterski/slalom-ski/syndicate-v-type-blem-bwf-s15-381228-1.html If you enter the discount code skipro102011 it might get you another 10% off