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The 24-36 hour window has passed, could any of the initiators of the urgency warning provide feedback on what legislation / restrictions / actions have been taken? Thx in advance.

One of a few sports where the 'field of play' changes for every pass (ie- inning/set of downs/possession) in competition. Adds a level of complexity to the ideal training methodology.

Not coming, it's here. Transitioned from one to another ... sunset is actually a minute later each day from here on out (in the Rockies at least).

The Malibu Crew website would be a great source of information for that model boat. There are some subtle but significant differences across Wakesetter hulls that would be important to know depending on your planned usage. The wakeboarding Crew members can probably give a better insight on value.

As was the 9100, my initial response to the carbon core (9970cc) was Wow! Everything between the 9100 and 9970cc was incremental, so to carbon core is a step change. Agree with Horton, my expectation are for a longer lasting, more stable ski.

@Octopus_Paxarbolis - my answer, I don't know until I try each one. As you peruse various forums here you will notice the theme of try before you buy. These $2k+ little addictive toys all have their own personalities and each of us will lean towards different favorites, just like GF's / BF's:-) In two words - all 3.

1:33 in gives the visual on the carbon core aspect:

The goal = water + snow > 183 days & at least one with both.

Sad news about a person in the skier community: https://www.facebook.com/share/YJrFQQGwLaeFoaBX/?mibextid=aI5dXw condolences to the family

@Horton - I agree the problem will affect boating in general but I don’t agree it is not about surfing. It is all about surf boats. The boat wake / loud noise / obnoxious behavior issues (the items highlighted in the links) have come to the front in parallel with the surge in inland lake surfing. I can’t emphasize enough that a 200’ restriction will pretty much kill the Midwest small public lake water ski scene. It would be very helpful to understand Mastercraft’s position relative to John’s feedback as to why they are not calling out the specific group responsible and lumping all of the water sports activities together.

Similar scenario for motox, several riders train together at so & so's track. One interesting aspect, it's not manufacturer aligned as many of the riders train with competitors on different bikes. An additional element, who aligns with specific coaches / trainers. Alden Baker comes to mind as one who coaches many motox winners. Latest 2 time MotoGP champ comes from the VR school (Valentino Rossi). Who comes to mind on the waterski side?

Just my opinion although gleaned from reading various sources including the Mastercraft letter. This initiative is driven by the wake surf industry, which Mastercraft is a significant supplier and arguably it's most profitable segment. There has been a rather significant pushback on inland surfing with numerous municipalities initiating legislation / ordinances to curtail the sport due to damage / annoyance caused by the participants. I suggest you peruse the boat forums to get a read on it, as the participant feedback is enlightening on how they perceive issues relative to their sport. As for the verbiage presented by Mastercraft, that alone will significantly affect the ability to engage in what this forum enjoys, slalom skiing in states like Michigan, Minnesota and Wisconsin. These states are peppered with small 100 - 200 acre lakes with shorelines that would simply eliminate the ability to ski, I live on one and have ski friends on several others. Within a ten minute drive from my house I can count 20 ski boats on lakes that would be non skiable with a 200' rule. Sure I can then go to the private ski lake I have access to, but if I truly want to see waterskiing flourish this is not a regulation that benefits the ski community. To add to this, there was legislation proposed by a northern Michigan representative (a skier who wanted to ensure he still had the opportunity to ski) that would have limited the ability to ski. He withdrew the legislation once it was pointed the bill was opposite of the desired effect. Lesson - pay attention to what your representative is writing, he/she may not even know what is in the bill. I hope the ski community stands up for itself, not just the private lake aspect but those on either a private or public waterway, and let's the surf industry fight their own battle. Small wake ski boats are not part of the problem and they should not be restricted due to someone else's.

I received the letter from Mastercraft. At the bottom of the letter is the following right below what John has posted: Please support keeping our waterways open for our friends and family – it is a big part of our lifestyle and why we live where we do. I write to urge you to fight to keep our waterways accessible.

@dvskier - nice, did you get a yellow jacket? 😆 I saw the sled in use a few times today, bummer. North & South Rim, Prima and Pronto off Northwoods chair at Vail are open with very good coverage, the only bowl open is Game Creek. The Outback is great until you have to ride the Wayback chair and Santiago has fun stuff too. So far, Vail is getting all the snow in the area. The staff at Vail has been great, everybody is super friendly, cordial and smiling. Makes for an even more enjoyable day on the slopes. Kudo's to whomever has spread the happy culture, we as customers appreciate it.

@dvskier - rock skis to start the season, amazingly very little to hit! Surprising for December.

14" of fresh snow in the last 48 hours at Vail, a bit of a chilly start (1 deg F) but a pleasant mid 20's by afternoon. Some really nice powder to blast through. More ropes dropping by the day (to non snow skiers = first runs of the season meaning fresh tracks or the equivalent of pure glass).

Have you had the boat appraised by a certified appraiser? That will provide you with an unbiased evaluation of value. The appraiser would need to be well versed in the ski boat business and know what that boat is, you are correct in it being a boat that really appreciated by those that own one. As noted, the asking price is well above the going rate for a similar boat. If the buyer comes along that places the same value on the condition and extras a deal may happen. If it gets to the 'need to sell' point, the selling price will be adjusted accordingly.

@swbca - from the responses you give relative to solutions offered, another method used to secure bindings to a ski and still allow the foot separation you are looking for, Goode used 3M industrial velcro as a removable securing bond to attach a long plate to the ski. You can dig up the details along with various threads on this site for pros / cons / maintenance etc. for that method. Here is a video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APvBJndHrNM This method provides a way to separate the plate from the ski, does not get your foot out of the boot but at least you'll show up to the Emergency room locked in a pair of boots and not with the ski in tow. Personally, I like boots attached to the ski via screws with inserts in the ski, for me there is too much variability in a velcro attachment.

Why wait, not all the water is solid in Michigan.

We spent hours dialing in a ski fin to the thousandths, micro-tune our boots, go to the extreme of wearing specific 'lucky' apparel and yet ... Max Verstappen wins an F1 race with a broken front wing that spent hours and millions of dollars perfecting in a wind tunnel, Kyle Larson wins a NASCAR race after smacking the wall more than a couple of times, Mark Martin leads a NASCAR race running on 7 of 8 cylinders, injured (hence not at 100%) athletes win games all the time, just sayin', maybe Horton has a point although flapping trunks and legs in the same sentence, it is winter.

Another tell tale is to grab the outlet hose from the raw water pump, you can feel the pressure (it tends to pulse along with being firmer) and temperature (cold) readily.

For more durable protection perhaps aircraft leading edge tape: https://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/pnpages/09-31615.php?gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQiAsburBhCIARIsAExmsu5H9nTYRjyctyt7q7GspC8B1VBqIpvE_8TD_KQ7xu6IfNHLDaPL3xsaAtMgEALw_wcB There are several varieties, price per roll will reflect that. https://www.chiefaircraft.com/aircraft/weatherstrip/leading-edge-tape/3m-51-4.html?gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQiAsburBhCIARIsAExmsu6xomgqYWDSew8iYEavi6D4Q5RESJFYWOXOSxHwKZEesMD35ZEzvIUaAg5UEALw_wcB

For me, canting my front binding (tipping side to side) is an adjustment that evens out my onside / offside turn radius -or- perhaps said a bit differently evens out the toeside / heelside foot pressure from onside to offside turns to achieve a more even onside to offside turn radius.

@Jtim3032 - that is the reason I cant my front boot. (Cant = tipping top of boot). Done by adding a spacer under the inside of the mounting plate or adjusting the upper cuff lateral angle.