lkb,  yes, even with accurate (good) times. It is just a little less forgiving in the preturn. My boat has a very soft but consistant pull, my baseline for 34 mph is 3290 rpm. So, on PP mode I use a Kx +, which picks me up a little faster off the ball. I played with the Kx settings on the SG; but, it didn't seem to make it any better. (-) was worse & (+) was worse. The normal Kx felt the best on SG. 2gofaster, Thanks for the efforts, I would be interested to compare. My current #'s are pregate = .65, 1 ball = 26, 3 ball = 19. These numbers get actuals 90 % of the time, sometimes the splits come up just a touch hot, like 7.11 or 7.12 where I would prefer some 7.15 or 7.16.