jjackkrash

The 67" Senate is .1" wider than a 68" Vapor and has very similar surface area. It's going to put more ski under your foot than a same size Vapor if that's what you are looking for. I am on a 68" Vapor right now and am going to give a 67" Senate a try in a few weeks to see if I like it coming off back surgery and maybe skiing at some slower speeds but shorter line lengths in training. 68" Vapor: 376.54 SQ” 7.061” (width)

I do not believe there is a 66" Senate in the probuild trim. 65, 67, 69. Specs on the 67: 67" 379.42 SQ" 7.16” (width) Specs on 67" Vapor: 67" 365.54 SQ” 6.957” (width)

Its a Glastron GT 150. https://www.theameryfreepress.com/6-30-21-glastron-one-web-jpg/image_69331f68-df5a-11eb-9a37-532b30f2a7cb.html

I am trying to head to sub 190 this year, but damn it's hard for me to stay that light. I was 223 on Jan 1 and now I'm just cracking sub 200 (which is lighter than usual for this time of year). A 67 would sure give me some incentive though.

68" DV8s reduced to $500 or best offer. Make me a fair offer on the Radars. Get em' while they're hot.

Do these weight recommendations make sense in light of the surface area of the skis? 2024 Vapor Pro: 68"376.54 SQ”7.061”32-36 MPH / 52-58 KPHCOURSE180-220 lbs / 82-100 kg 69.5"393.33 SQ”7.217”32-36 MPH / 52-58 KPHCOURSE200+ lbs / 90+ kg *** Senate Pro: 67"379.42 SQ"7.16”34 MPHCOURSE160 – 200 lbs / 73 – 91 kg 69"402.41 SQ"7.37"34 MPHCOURSE 180 – 220 lbs / 82 – 100 kg I'd like to try a Senate but I am right at 200 usually don't like being on that end of the weight range but the 69 seems pretty damn big compared to my 68" vapor.

They make thinner neoprene dive socks that will definitely take the bite out of the air and water. They slide on and off easily (like socks) and I can get my foot into an RTP. I would think they would slide into boots easily with a little soap.

Not much that can be done about it. ZO had a patent that applied to all econtrol boats and basically won a patent lawsuit. So until the patent expires there's not much to be done about the lack of competition absent some other, unknown and untested innovation that does not risk another ZO patent violation. IIRC a patent lasts 20 years so maybe we are coming up on its expiration that might break the competition logjam.

3-event Skiing is aristocratic. It's not for the masses. It not like soccer or even snowboarding. Think more along the lines of Polo and Dressage. It's both expensive and tough to get to the top of Everest as well, but that's part of the charm. You can, in fact, find ways to ski on a budget if you really want to. You just have to be hooked, creative and committed. But, again, you need to be a lunatic who really appreciates the sport or its not going to happen. Skiing is what it is. The best sport on the planet for a relatively few families who get it. And that's ok with me.

Or lillypads! But ya.

Jet boats are perfect if you don't really want the boat to track in straight lines, deliver efficient power to propel the boat through the water, or need any semblance of low-speed control when docking or picking up fallen water sports participants. Seriously, the biggest benefit is no prop to hurt someone or get bent and shallow water capability, but there are some big tradeoffs.

Holy crap. Not that far off!

These boats don't sell; manufacturers don't want to make them; and the ski boats that currently sell and are the most profitable are still at risk of being discontinued because they are less profitable than the wake boats. Maybe some of you guys with the bare-bones strippy ski boat fantasy business model can start a company and give it a go and prove me wrong. I'll root you all on from the sidelines (I just won't invest any of my money in the business plan).

I free ski set Yesterday just for conditioning to make the start of our season (March 10) less painful. It made me very happy to be on the water.

The community has to get the kids taking tournament jobs and learning judging skills, etc. We are putting an emphasis on it so the kids can run college tournaments when they leave the house. I suspect my boy is going into engineering so he should be able the learn the technical side of the sport. But it's always been and going to be a few people doing the work so others can enjoy the fun side of things.

It was late and a long day. If my post was ambiguous, to clarify, my point was all the talk of a stripped down boat over the past few years on this site is and has been a delusional pipe dream. And if Mailbu kills their ski-boat program and we are left with only two options, the prices on what's left going forward are only going up and the supply is only going down.

Panda? I have been saying for years we are lucky to have three boats to choose from and that the stripped down ski boat fantasy was a pipe dream given the economic realities of the industry. And now we might be down to two.

Anyone here still holding out hope for an inexpensive, stripped down ski tug? If you want a ski boat get 'em while you can.

ART/professional deep tissue massage on forearms, triceps, and shoulders coupled with rest/recovery is about the only thing that works for me.

If you are carrying extra weight, get lighter. For me deadlift, stiff leg deadlift, good mornings, hip thrusters, exercises on the Donkey (glute-ham, reverse sit ups, etc.) and bandwork seem to help with the back. I also need to get back in for ART/deep tissue massage to deal with elbow pain (golf and tennis elbow). That's about the only thing that helps my elbows. But, ya, get lighter.

He was my favorite skier. Now I just hate him for crushing all my excuses.

Every morning when I wake up the first thing I check is exactly how much more daylight we will have tomorrow. Even though I pretty much already know, down to the second, because of how often I look at the runrise/sunset chart. (The day will be 1 min. 21 seconds longer tomorrow where I live). I also check how many days until March 10, the day I can ski after work without leaving work early. (Only 64 more days!). God damnit I hate winter.

Senates come in 67 and 69. If they had a 68 I'd probably be on one.

There is also a 69.5 Vapor option. Buy Ya, Senate Pro. Vapor 69.5" 393.33 SQ” 7.217” 32-36 MPH / 52-58 KPH COURSE 200+ lbs / 90+ kg Senate Pro 69" 402.41 SQ" 7.37" 34 MPH COURSE 180 – 220 lbs / 82 – 100 kg

This last season my boy was running run into 36 mph; it took him 5 passes to get there (all @28 off). There's nothing wrong with running passes and nothing worse than a MOP.