Jody_Seal

it's shiny example of the benefits of a failing sport! make rules and policy's that make the sport unsustainable and then rely on financial income from a bureaucratic institution. what makes it even more ass clownish is they get the guy that should have been thrown out of the sport to carry the the torch for this country... truly a sad state of affairs for sure..

@Hortonwhat I tell ya!!

it's not HP it is torque..

the big boats with big engines have nearly 465 ft pounds of torque. that much torque does not allow for much skier impact like a 375 foot pound small block chebby..

I had this conversation last week with a very good slalom skier, I suggested running in practice mode and upping the speed a tick or two.. instead of 16.95 run 16.80.. 

why not a run off for the bronze? my take on that one is just another score driven argument.  truly does not represent best skiers of the day!

schedule change? meh! going to have whinger's on either side of that, But then again the best skiers of the day prevailed .

honestly though when you look at it in the big picture , the best men's slalom score of the event was ridden on a Radar! .... where can I order one??

looking forward to the cooler season. rebuild season.. 

Dad built it in 1965 , still own it today..

starting on a 1995 Sport Nautique. complete strip down engine out, repower, the whole nine yards.. 6.0 non cat and series 80-123. ZO also.

looking forward to taking a ride behind it..  Nostalgic!!

1 hour ago, Drago said:

@HortonI think you're right. Jump and 36 SL needed the secondaries. (At least in Colorado) the secondaries would kick in and out at 34mph SL.

I think we need to revive old school water skiing!! Hand driving events! very few of us left that drove with out speed control.. And still drive today..

Last time i skied hand driving was at Callaway Gardens running out the 61 SN Parade boat, Art Cozier Driving. 2012 maybe.. we put a solid hour on the boat that afternoon.

1 hour ago, Horton said:

@Jody_Seal I don't know maybe I'm using the wrong terminology. when I was a kid whenever we got a new boat the first thing we did was remove a little c clip off of a post on the side of the carburetor. then we would slide the connected arm off that post. the result was the secondaries wouldn't kick in slalom. we would of course reconnect it for a jump. My memory is clear. my description may suck.

back in the day when hand driving always a shock when you jump in to drive 35 mph jump and the promo fool unhooked his secondary diaphragm...

I want see Horton do a video on disconnect of Holley secondaries!!

or better yet installing the secondary cam and secondary diaphram that does not allow the secondaries to crash in..

I have  complete GT-40 for sale. running condition.. Add stargazer and Zbox you have the whole package for an EFI project.

it's obvious this sport demographic wise has become a geriatric sport. deep water starts become more difficult as we age,  ticks me off! 

more ticked off tonight, put one hell of a handle ding on the opposite edge of my senate missing a deep up this morning... arrg!!!!@@@ another reason not to buy a new stick!! just screw it up!!!

I'll have another round of jb weld please, oh and a shot for the mental pain!!!

59 minutes ago, dave2ball said:

@chaloux if you are planning to put ZO retrofit an 07 with 2000 hrs on the motor and transmission your best course of action would be to put a new motor and trans into the boat along with ZO. @Jody_Seal would be the man for that job.  

i have a 750 hour 5.3/80 123 on ski it again now. would make a great repower in a bubble butt or pre 06 196.

A new 6.0 bob tail non cat is in the $12k range now as well as a 80 transmission  123:1 pushing $4k

nope! can't afford one on social security. new ski is two months mortgage payment! just going to ride the senate another season. it makes big spray and easy deep starts..

33 minutes ago, dave2ball said:

196 mold cut up years ago.  

lol! plenty of 196 plugs running around. a plug is what molds are made from.

54 minutes ago, Horton said:

@Jody_Seal I think it is fair to say that you are also explaining why the current cost of boats is not price gouging. 

I think so. like it or not the inboard marine industry is in reality a off shoot of the automotive industry and we are like plumbers. with the decline of competitive water-skiing the new ski boat market is at an all time low. taking up production space for a low volume boat is not what a major builder will do when the bigger higher volume as well as profit margins boat can be built on its place. 

it would take a small builder like Sanger to produce and market a ski boat in the lower price range. they are not feeding the beast within..

sitting on the floor right now is a new H6 raw water cooled pcm and transmission. right at $20k with shipping and tax.. 

2.5 times cost is the common number in this industry as to how much the end user will be charged for a item. with that in mind. the boat companies have far better bying power   for raw goods and materials. 

the same h6 to the boat manufacturer will be substantially less price wise maybe as much as $5k. so now go inventory the rest of the components and materials into the boat and one will find the cost going out the manufacturer door will be as much as 2.5 times less then what the end customer sale will be. so if a new boat is $135k divided by 2.5 equals $54K That the manufacturer has into the product before markup to the dealer. dealer cost on that boat now is close to $80k or more. dealer has to pay flooring (sometimes) as well as prep and a sales commission of 7-10% to the salesperson.. 

in the big picture with this somewhat Grey scenario one can see why it is far more profitable to build big boats vs small ski boats. 

some have said the waterski aspect of the boat industry should be lucky manufacturers are still building ski boats ...

tournament: 36 mph men1&2 3@35off. 34mph men 3,4,5,6 3@35 off. 32 mph men 7 so far 1 @32 off "note" hip replacement recovery.

Anyone can have a PB in practice.

it will probably work well with that paint ball set up that fires balls out along side the boat for a skier to turn... 

I ask about product liability only because it is a needed question to be answered. so far like a politician under oath this question has been dodged!

how deep are their product liability pockets? 

after looking at the next frame 1/4 buoy.... still need to be in whats considered a skiing position...

I would not know as I don't get that close to buoys!

need a middle finger emoji!!

On 9/8/2023 at 11:34 AM, The_MS said:

I have no plans on starting it up, organizing or dealing with it. However, if there is a group out there willing,  I would be happy to be a member and contribute the 2-3k per year that I was spending prior to this debacle. If not, I am very happy on the sidelines and spending my money on skis and other stuff. 

want to be on the board of a different approach to competitive water-skiing?

just looked online at a j craft.. I want one! wonder how they go around tight turn islands ?