@bishop I think that the answer to your skiing population question lays not in what little amount of access you can have with skiing but the large amount with other sports. You can down to any park in any town and play basketball, tennis, football etc. All you need is a ball and shoes for most sports. With skiing it is a geogrophy question. Most towns dont have any lakes. Making it hard for people to even get the idea of skiing or boating into thier head, especially with no advretising. Another aspect is that kids today see players like Lebron James and Aaron Rodgers everywhere. They realize that they are making millions a year. Not possible in skiing directly because of the small amount of people participating in it. Another thing is private ski lakes. I go to a private ski lake, I used to go to a public a few years ago. What I have noticed is that when someone sees a good skiier, someone who can get into shortline, they see that and say "oh, thats cool, I wanna do that" and some of them will come talk to you and try to learn a little bit about it. However with almost all of the tournment skiing population on private lakes, that takes that factor out of the public. Another thing is the price of boats. The Malibu dealership in Louisville had I believe a response Lxi out one time. and in a big sign it said "$45,999". To a normal person they will go by that and think "if that is a good deal, what is a average ski boat priced at". That isnt cheap. That also puts into thier mind "skiiers=rich" when they might be someone making a median income even though if they bought a used boat they could still afford to get into the game. There are so many factors that people dont realize until they talk to someone already in tournment skiing. Sadly that number will decrease if we continue having our tournment skiiers in lakes that only other tournment skiiers know about.