GregDavis

Thanks John, the betting made it fun. Whatever I won, I will send to Kristi. for In His Wakes.

VALUE:

 

1. Qualify of product

2. Performance

3 Resale, RESALE, RESALE.

4. Does boat meet the needs or your family activities

5. VALUE, Yes, X boat is more expensive than Y boat, however, is the VALUE there

for you. and your interests. I place alot of importance on Resale, People who keep a boat 10 years or more, resale isn't as important.

6. Drive ability, I want a slalom boat that is easy to drive in slalom course.

i.e. wife driving, I want best pull while skiing slalom course that I can get.

 

 

KrleeBaller

 

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Krlee, To comment on your question: "if that is really the case, why isn't the Centurion flying out the door for slalom skiers"?

 

We could go on and on and on about this subject. If Centurion hangs in there, I think they will start selling more. Lots of things to consider when purchasing a new boat.

1. Qualify of product

2. Performance

3 Resale

4. Does boat meet the needs or your family activities

5. VALUE, Yes, X boat is more expensive than Y boat, however, is the VALUE there

for you. and your interests. I place alot of importance on Resale, People who keep a boat 10 years or more, resale isn't as important.

6. Drive ability, I want a slalom boat that is easy to drive in slalom course.

i.e. wife driving, I want best pull while skiing slalom course that I can get.

6. again, we could go on and on, Everyones different, and has different opinions.

 

Me, I like a high quality boat, with good resale, that is designed for Slalom. Now with my Grandkids skiing, the slalom wake at slower seeds is important to me, as I want them to progress salely, and with enjoyment. I will put up with lack of storage, or

not a good trick wake, etc.etc. those things are not as important to me than the slalom wake

 

If I only trick skied, I would purchase the best boat made, for tricks. ( as long as it was going to be used in Nationals), However, my point is trick only skiers only represent a very, very small group. It is just not profitable to make a boat for that small of a market.

 

I'm not sure on this, however, I was told that the US CoastGard sticker on the Centurion says boat is only approved for 3 passangers. If this is true, it will kill resale.

 

If someone made a better slalom boat than a Nautique 200, I would consider buying one.

I do not work for Nautique, and this comment has nothing to do with How Correct Craft Corporate feels about three event skiing. Lets be realistic, if there are 5000 Tournament water skiers in US, or the World for that matter. ( I don't know the exact number, but it doesn't matter for this example) Of the 5,000, it would be my guess that over 90% or 4500, slalom ski. OK, that leaves 500 that trick only and or Jump only. ( number is probably more like 95% slalom and 5% trick or jump only) As a business man, do I build the absolute best boat for slalom, ( i.e. no compromise slalom wakes) or do I compromise the slalom wake for the less than 10% or trick skiers? Come on, are you kidding me. It's pretty simple, math. you can't be everything to everybody. If a boat company came out with a unbelievable, fantastic, best in the world trick boat, ( not real good slalom wakes ), They would sell less than 50. Don't get me wrong, if your passion is trick skiing and or jumping, that's great, and I respect that. however, we're talking business when building and selling boats.

Old guys rule.

Gordon, you hit it out of the park on this one. Congratulations on having the idea, then making it happen. Hats off to ya Bud.

 

Easy to come up with ideas, different story to implement those ideas. Great job. We'll all be tuned in.

 

 

 

Greg Davis

This is awesome, thanks Horton for adding a new fun twist to things. I bet on 4 or the 5 skiers. mainly because I know each of them personnaly. If I win any $, 100% of what I win, will go to IN HIS WAKES. good Stuff.

It will be interesting. The Man is not done. We'll see. My money is on the Man.

Fogman system, I looked at this ski before the guy skied, I talked with him and commented on h ow clean his binding system was. He had releases set very, very, very tight, obviously too tight. They don't have to be that tight. Fogman system is one of the safest systems if set up properly. Not the fault of the binding system

who is OB?

Do not underestimate THE MAN. Even though he is 50, my money is on Andy

Todd should have put himself on the cover for winning the Nautique Big Dawg World Tour. Come on ( 4 at 41 ), in the dark, Took down The Man.

I'll be selling my 2013 this summer for a great price.

sold my Cream Puff, 100 hour, 2008 for $35,500 in 2008 Sold my perfect 100 hour 2009 in 2009 for $35,500

Sorry guys, However there is another date change, regarding when entry will open for Mississippi, Big Dawg Qualifier. Feb. 15th is on a Friday, ( not good ) we moved to Feb 14th, ( that is Valentines Day), Therefore the date entries will open is Feb 18th at 8 PM on line entry only. I do like the idea or a Miss Nautique or a Miss Nautique Big Dawg.

Actually, there is a change, It's Feb. 14th, at 8 pm Eastern time. Mississippi, Stop, sorry for any misunderstanding

Entry for Miss. Nautique Big Dawg, will open Feb. 15. at 8 pm Eastern Time. No entries will be accepted prior to Feb. 15. Entry date for Mich. will be announced.

 

Host will accept the FIRST 50 entries at each of the US Qualifiers. Hopefully there will be a balance, of entries, ( 50 skiers in Miss, 50 Skiers in Mich. ) There we be some US skiers going to Chile, and if they qualify in Chile, they may not ski in any US Stops.

clemsondaveBaller

 

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"I'd like to see a BD tournament after Nationals that qualifies you for the next year."

 

 

STAY TUNED. WORKING ON IT.

Love you guys, this is what makes it fun. Different takes on things.

 

Not many people have heard of Mark Brandt. Mid West skier. Mark ran 39 at the Big Dawg Finals, ( 1 or 1 1/2 at 41 ) in 2010 ithink it was. I think it was a personal best in a Record.

 

In 2011 We did a poll, "who would win Big Dawg Finals". people voted, and we posted the top 20. Well the guy who won, wasn't even in the 20 of possible winners. Kyle Tate, was Big Dawg Champion.

 

The BD motivates some skiers to push, to reach, to beleive they can up their game. Hey, it's about competition, if a skier goes to a BD qualifier, he might qualify for BD finals, if not, at least he has a shot. Then if he doens't make the BD Finals, it's possible, he gets a shot at The Nautique Sr. Tour, skiing in a Head to head format, at the Nationals. One air ticket, one hotel, one rent a car several great days of skiing. He can also ski in his division at Nationals. i.e. could ski 5 times, rather than make trip to Nationals and ski one time.

 

OB, crazy baller, Below post from you, is exactly what we are trying to accomplish.

 

" What's the big deal in allowing all of the High End guys ski in a Big Dawg Championship and the better part of the middle of the road guys ski in a Senior Championship while they are all in one place. One airfare, one hotel, one rental car, and one week of skiing. Sounds like a no brainer from a planning perspective"

 

Thanks for your support Greg

http://www.ski-it-again.com/php/skiitagain.php?topic=Search&category=Slalom&postid=21925

OBCrazy Baller

 

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@Greg Davis...what's the cut to make the NBDWT Championships at Okee during Nationals. I've surfed around but can't find the exact print. I though it was the Top 16 at each event but that adds up to more than 50 skiers. Elite 8 at each event is not enough.

 

 

 

Go to www.NautiqueBigDawg.com on top of page, click on Tour Stops, then click on rules and formats. It explains qualification procedure.

"@Greg Davis correct me if I am wrong about this. This is how I understand it.

 

The Big Dawg is a "Sr. Tour" and in the US/Cannada this is the only one, but there is also a Latin American www.latinseniortour.com and European Sr. tour out there and this is now bringing them more together. As the BD is more the elite side the Sr. Tour is just below that. We can usually guess the top 10 skiers in the BD from year to year, but there are many other guys who ski the BD stops for fun and a chance to compete with the best in the world at 34. The Sr. Tour is for them to compete in as well. Guys like lets say @OB who are right on the edge of making MM and honestly have no chance of running 41 anytime soon (sorry OB you are an old hack ;) ) can still compete and a high level in events with some great skiers, but still have a chance to win a title. Its like the Nationwide series in NASCAR. I could be totally wrong about this. "

 

 

YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. THANKS FOR HELPING EXPLAIN Greg

 

 

 

I'll try to add some information that might help people understand the reasoning for adding another level to the 35 plus skiers.

 

 

When the Big Dawg Started, 2004, it was for 34 mph skiers who were over 35, had jobs, families, business responsibilities etc. Back then the 34 mph skiers were fragmented, you had, Mens 3, Mens 4, Master Mens and a few Mens 5 guys. The intent was to find out, just who was the best 34 mph skier. Lets put all these guys into the same lake, the same day, the same drivers and see who is the Big Dawg. These guys were not pros and basically, most of the guys never skied at the Pro Level. ( with a few exceptions ). The guys loved the competition. The first year, 2004, 2 1/2 at 39 won FIRST PLACE at the Big Dawg ( 2 AND 1/2 AT 39. ), Now, 2 and 1/2 at 39 will not even qualify you for the Big Dawg Sweet 16 at the Finals.

 

 

 

Things have changed, we now have x pros, coming in, We have the best Slalom Skier in the History of the Sport competing in the Nautique Big Dawg World Tour, and the other guys have stepped up their game, they would like nothing better than to knock Andy off. Therefore we have lost many of the skiers who are, kind of stuck at 2 or 3 at 39. ( Wish I was stuck at 2 at 39) These guys feel they are no longer competitive in the Big Dawg. What makes all these guys tick, is competition. But there must be some parity, or lets face it, it's not that much fun. By introducing the Nautique Sr. Tour, it allows the top 16 skiers, who didn't qualify for the Nautique Big Dawg World Tour Finals, to compete in a Head to Head format, where they will be going at it with guys of similar ability. Rest assured, the Head to Head competition in the Nautique Sr. Tour will be just as fearse as the Sweet 16 head to head in the Big Dawg Finals. scores will just be about 6 buoys less, but the competition will be just as intense.

 

 

 

In the past we had 50 skiers at the Finals, ( the best 34 mph skiers in the World), going at it, In 2013, it will be 56 of the best, 40 Big Dawg Skiers and 16 Nautique Sr. Tour Skiers.

 

 

Lets say, I'm a skier on the fence, usually in practice I can get a couple at 39, not always, and 38 is for sure not automatic, but if I'm skiing good, I can run 38. Now, do I go to the expense of traveling to Mississippi or Michigan for the Nautique Big Dawg Qualifier? One time in a class C tournament I ran 39. But I am stuck at 2 at 39 for the most part. Man, I have fun at the Big Dawg events, hanging out with all the guys, etc.etc, but I'm just not in the ball park, 2 at 39 isn't going to get the job done. Now if I ski out of my butt, and a personal best in a R tournament, I just might qualify for the Big Dawg, But, if not, and if I ski up to my potential, I can qualify for the Nautique Sr. Tour. I'll make the trip to Nationals, ski in my division, then ski in the Nautique Sr. Tour.

 

NEW NAUTIQUE SENIOR TOUR

 

TO JOIN THE NAUTIQUE BIG DAWG WORLD TOUR

 

 

 

ORLANDO, FLA (December 14, 2012) — Nautique announces the addition of a Nautique Senior Tour to be held in conjunction with the Nautique Big Dawg World Tour, presented by O’Brien.

 

 

 

The Nautique Senior Tour Finals will be based upon the results from the five Big Dawg stops. The Senior Tour Finals will consist of a sweet sixteen head-to-head format held in conjunction with the Nautique Big Dawg World Tour Finals at Okeeheelee Park in West Palm Beach, FL on August 16, 2013.

 

 

 

The two competitions will be working together to promote water skiing and to expand opportunities for skiers to participate in the head-to-head format. The Senior Tour will be pulled exclusively by the world record breaking Ski Nautique 200. Below are the five stops of the tour and how to qualify:

 

 

•San Bernardo, Chile: Feb 1-2, 2013 – 3rd and 4th place skiers from the Latin American Sr. Tour.

•Melbourne, Australia, Moomba Masters: March 6-11, 2013 - Top two Australian skiers.

•Canton, Mississippi: June 29-30, 2013 - Top 5 skiers that did not qualify for NBDWT.

•Baurech, France: July 6-7, 2013 – 4th and 5th place skiers from European NBDWT qualifier.

•Fenton, Michigan: July 13-14, 2013 - Top 5 skiers that did not qualify for NBDWT

 

 

 

“We are extremely excited to expand the Nautique Big Dawg World Tour,” stated Nautique’s President/CEO Bill Yeargin. “The Nautique Big Dawg is clearly the most prestigious 35 and older ski event in the world and we look forward to continuing to give skiers around the world an opportunity to participate in this exciting format,” Yeargin added.

 

For more information regarding official rules, how to qualify and more on the Nautique Big Dawg World Tour and the Senior Tour please visit http://nautiquebigdawg.com

 

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