Administrators Horton Posted March 23, 2011 Author Administrators Share Posted March 23, 2011 My guess is that there is a nylon block in to the core where the fin goes though... something like that (wild guess) Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad_Scott Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 That is correct John and what Dave has told me about the ability to place inserts into the new skis is that he is working with a plug that will accept inserts in the 9960 and the Fire which he has not used before. Dave still believes that from a performance standpoint with carbon composite that it is still best when used with the interlock system. He has heard the rumbling regarding inserts and it going have models that will be able to utilize inserts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clemsondave Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 So last year's Mid is still going to be $1440. If anyone has a 65 for sale, let me know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Chef23 Posted March 24, 2011 Baller Share Posted March 24, 2011 Will there be mid and wide versions of the Fire or just the 9960 and Nano? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller JC McCavit Posted March 24, 2011 Baller Share Posted March 24, 2011 The gentlemen in the video appeared to be riding the Nano at 34 mph skiing well, how are the pro's doing in tournaments at 36 mph? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Miller Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Contact ehyan Caldwell he has a almost new 65 Mide ride 9900 he bought at the end of the season last year. It is the same flex and Rocker as the ski I won the Big Dawg on. Med flex with about 1.62 rocker. Sweet ski Ehyan 1 778 552 2377 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KM Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Talked with Dave Miller today. Here are his numbers for his 65" 188 AMP Nano Mid: Front Boot = 28-3/4" Rear Boot = 17-3/8" Length = 6.820" with Goode caliper (jaws) Depth = 2.445" Tail = 0.725" I am planning on ordering one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Miller Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 My front boot is 28.75 not 29.75 Dave Miller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted March 24, 2011 Author Administrators Share Posted March 24, 2011 Funny how important an inch can be. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KM Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 I did mis-type the front boot distance and edited the above post. I am pretty sure that Dave Miller said his fin length was measured with the jaws of a Goode dial caliper, not the slot caliper. I could be wrong though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted March 24, 2011 Author Administrators Share Posted March 24, 2011 Unless something has changed.. The Goode caliper = slot caliper see http://ballofspray.com/component/content/article/35-ballofspray-water-ski-news/885-update-digital-slot-caliper Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobuna Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Are there any pictures of the new graphics for the 9960? i heard there are going to be a couple colour options...true? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KM Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Are the Goode slot calipers the same as the new version of the digital slot calipers without the indentation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Jörgen Jansson Posted March 24, 2011 Baller Share Posted March 24, 2011 Dave if you weigh 185 going down to depth 39 is the 65" 188 amp (Nano) right choice of size amp? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ForrestGump Posted March 25, 2011 Baller Share Posted March 25, 2011 The two slot calipers I've used had a .020 difference between their dft measurements and my non slot caliper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Miller Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 jjsson I you are no more than 185 then yes the 65 Mid Nano is great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted March 26, 2011 Author Administrators Share Posted March 26, 2011 I spent some time poking around Google tonight looking up nanotechnology, epoxy, pre-impregnated unidirectional fiber and such. There's way too much information about nano epoxy for me to summarize. You're interested you should look. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ral Posted March 27, 2011 Baller Share Posted March 27, 2011 A good point to start (and finish...) would be http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_nanotube#Current_applications Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller disland Posted March 27, 2011 Baller Share Posted March 27, 2011 Thanks for the link, This is interesting stuff. Maybe this isn't just a marketing gimmick. Maybe this will be another breakthrough for Goode, like the 9100 was. That ski revolutionized the sport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FischersYearRound Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 The 9100 is the only Goode that has the channel or box design on the top sheet. This in theory makes it more torsional rigid. And also far more stronger ski that has less likelihood of snapping in the middle. All things considered or being the same. A flat piece of material compared to one that has the channel will have different strength and flex characteristics. Try it. Glue a pair of straws on a sheet of paper and see. As far as build-in twist is concerned, I suppose that can have a positive effect on transitions and turns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jdarwin Posted March 27, 2011 Baller Share Posted March 27, 2011 Got to put my hands on a couple of the Nano's this weekend and talk to a couple of skiers who've ridden them. Pretty slick. It will interesting to see how the new ski impacts the scores this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ForrestGump Posted March 27, 2011 Baller Share Posted March 27, 2011 I was there with JD. It was very interesting to hear the skier's assessment of the nano mid ride. You could look down the top surface and see the twist. I liked that Goode went to top and bottom graphic sheets instead of that black paint that faded and bubbled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad_Scott Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 Well I finally received a couple of the 65 mid nano twist from Dave Goode. Wow what a ski. The Nano Carbon is no gimmick. This ski is much faster than the 9900 mid ride and with the twist and two different rockers, there is no off side. As Dave Miller said the ski goes out and comes right back underneath you and accelerates quickly to the other side. I have four sets on the ski and so far it feels pretty incredible. The new carbon feels stiffer and definately rebounds quicker than the old carbon which allows for quick acceleration on the back side of the buoy. Last years mid ride was a great start and I thought was a great ski but there is no comparison to the Nano twist, this ski is on another level. Looking forward to testing the other ski which is a little softer than the first one I tried. With the new carbon the ski does not need to be as stiff in my opinion. After just a couple of sets that is my .02 cents so far. Looking forward to some sets on it this week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KM Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 I wonder, does the ski feel wobbly at all with asymmetric twist to the rocker? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Miller Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 The ski is very stable and does not wobble at all! Chad said it well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Jörgen Jansson Posted March 29, 2011 Baller Share Posted March 29, 2011 Dave Is there big difference between 188 amp and 188 firm amp. When should you have firm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Miller Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 I would go with the regular unless you are a very aggressive skier and on the heavier side for the ski size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller eleeski Posted March 29, 2011 Baller Share Posted March 29, 2011 Hey, most of my skis have asymmetric twists - but not on purpose. That's what Dave Goode was looking at in that photo Zippy posted. He did copy my ski for the wide ride (wikileeks told me). I should get royalties! Next Goodes will have shaved down tails and wallboard texture finish. The inserts are for Gatorade lids to keep the velcro on. Horton is going to have to come up with a banner to punish me. Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Jörgen Jansson Posted March 29, 2011 Baller Share Posted March 29, 2011 You use the same amp chart to the Nano mid ski as for 9900 sl mid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCskiier Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 I would appreciate some advice on Nano sizing For a guy 5' 9" and 190 what size and amp would you recommend in the Nano Twist Mid-ride. I am currently skiing into 35 off at 34 mph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted March 30, 2011 Author Administrators Share Posted March 30, 2011 I would call the factory and ask. They know the charts - they made the charts. In advance - whatever Eric says is wrong Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ral Posted March 30, 2011 Baller Share Posted March 30, 2011 The Fire will put a lot of stress on the other manufacturers. A US$ 990 Goode with inserts and 5-year warranty... And also available Mid and Wide for extra US$ 50 and 100... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clemsondave Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 Not sure I would trust their charts. I got a 63" last year based on their charts. Everyone I've spoken with since said I should have been on the 65". Took a bath selling it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ral Posted March 30, 2011 Baller Share Posted March 30, 2011 In my view, with current skis, it is better to err to the big side rather than the small, unless you do a LOT of cold water skiing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller eleeski Posted March 30, 2011 Baller Share Posted March 30, 2011 You should be on a 43". That is close to the optimum trick ski size. Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Ed_Obermeier Posted March 31, 2011 Baller Share Posted March 31, 2011 RAL wrote "The Fire will put a lot of stress on the other manufacturers. A US$ 990 Goode with inserts and 5-year warranty... And also available Mid and Wide for extra US$ 50 and 100... " Assuming the warranty is worth the paper it's written on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ral Posted March 31, 2011 Baller Share Posted March 31, 2011 Ed, we should know that in 6-9 months. Up to then, stress will be in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clemsondave Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 RAL, where did you see the $990 plus $50/$100 prices? I'm still seeing $1440 on their website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ForrestGump Posted March 31, 2011 Baller Share Posted March 31, 2011 http://www.goode.com/wsFIRE.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KM Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 There is a slight graphics change from the Nano test skis to the Nano production skis. The test skis had the word "MID" written on the tail. The production skis will have the word "twist" written on the tail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Boody Posted April 5, 2011 Baller Share Posted April 5, 2011 I'm anxious to hear how folks are liking this ski. Please post if you have ridden one! Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Boody Posted April 21, 2011 Baller Share Posted April 21, 2011 Well, its been a couple weeks. Anyone care to post their thoughts on this ski? I would love some feedback before I throw down that type of money. Thanks!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MSJ Posted April 22, 2011 Baller Share Posted April 22, 2011 I had a chance to ski my NANO several times this week. The ski is very stable, fast and turns great. It took me a few sets to get back into skiing (away from buoys for six months), but it didn’t take long to realize this ski has some major potential. For me the biggest thing I noticed was how much speed I could take into the buoy’s and it not affect the turns (both sides)!! As for the “twist” in the ski; the offside turn starts off as usual, but it was at the completion of the turn where it comes underneath you faster (I think it allowed for more angle as well?). At first I struggled with the offside turn, the bindings weren’t in the correct location and I was pushing too much (forcing the turn). As I got more comfortable on the ski (and moved the bindings back), I just started relaxing more allowed the ski to do the work. Passes started getting real easy after that. Note: I’m on a 65” 188 and according to the Goode charts I should be on a 63.75. The 65” didn’t feel big at all. My suggestion would be go bigger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KM Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 @MSJ, Where are your bindings set? I just got a 65" 188AMP Nano Mid that I am setting up. Stock is 29.25". I heard that the lighter skiers are liking the bindings back. Chad Scott (~180#) is at 29.25" but Dave Miller (~170#) is at 28.75". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MSJ Posted April 22, 2011 Baller Share Posted April 22, 2011 I wiegh 172, the front binding is currently at 29 3/16 and will try moving back more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Roger Posted April 22, 2011 Baller Share Posted April 22, 2011 Maybe all the hoopla will turn out to be true and this will be the next 9100 and change the world... But, I haven't seen any "since I got this ski, I don't miss 35 anymore," or "I'm now consistently running 3 more buoys then ever before." No offense to Dave Miller, but him seeing a piece of 4 ball at 41 is not nearly as exciting to me as one of our regular skiers suddenly running more buoys than they've ever been able to before... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skiep Posted April 22, 2011 Baller Share Posted April 22, 2011 Roger, I've been on my 65" 188 amp Nano since Tuesday. Skied 6 sets on it and more consistant running 35 for sure. Still have not run 38 yet but getting halfway down the line. Hope to nail the 38 this weekend when i have more time, I was on a 65.75" 9900 SL and running 35 about half the time now 90% of the time. Keith A. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Boody Posted April 22, 2011 Baller Share Posted April 22, 2011 Thanks MSJ for the feedback, keep it going. Scott, you too. Sounds like they are just now starting to hit the water, hopefully the reviews will be flying in. Goode doesn't seem to get the orders out the door too quickly. I ordered my VW almost two weeks ago and still waiting. I called and they said it should be here soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Roger Posted April 22, 2011 Baller Share Posted April 22, 2011 @skiep - Thanks, those are the kind of posts that will make people give this thing a try IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old MS Accout Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 EP can run 4@38 on a White Nomad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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