Administrators Horton Posted June 30, 2011 Administrators Share Posted June 30, 2011 On June 20th MS said: "Put the wing on. Do not listen to Horton or anyone else that tells you to ski without it. Bob put lots of R&D into design and the wing was on the ski the whole time." http://static-cl1.vanilladev.com/ballofspray.vanillaforums.com/uploads/FileUpload/14/914.png Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Become a Supporting Member or make a One-time Donation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted June 30, 2011 Author Administrators Share Posted June 30, 2011 In case you can not tell that is Bob LaPoint. Designer for HO and 5 time world champ. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Become a Supporting Member or make a One-time Donation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted June 30, 2011 Author Administrators Share Posted June 30, 2011 That photo makes me so happy! Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Become a Supporting Member or make a One-time Donation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skibug Posted June 30, 2011 Baller Share Posted June 30, 2011 Isn't that an A1 though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MattP Posted June 30, 2011 Baller Share Posted June 30, 2011 Doubt it. Probably some ski he made for himself with some left over graphics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted June 30, 2011 Author Administrators Share Posted June 30, 2011 When you see Bob or Will or any of the guys doing R&D - the graphics mean nothing. Could be a 2014 ski for all you know. Will's A2 looks like a miss match of graphics. Look at Parson's Goode, clearly the bottom has been changed. This guys are working on the next thing at all times. Not sure if I have posted any Terry Winter images.... trust me the ski in the photos is not the model he is on.... talk about that Friday. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Become a Supporting Member or make a One-time Donation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted June 30, 2011 Author Administrators Share Posted June 30, 2011 The important thing is that MS is wrong! Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Become a Supporting Member or make a One-time Donation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skibug Posted June 30, 2011 Baller Share Posted June 30, 2011 Now I can't believe anything anyone is telling me in this industry.....they are all a bunch of covert mission operatives Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jdarwin Posted June 30, 2011 Baller Share Posted June 30, 2011 "The important thing is that MS is wrong!" What's different about today from yesterday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MattP Posted June 30, 2011 Baller Share Posted June 30, 2011 @jdarwin good point. When was the last time @MS was right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ForrestGump Posted June 30, 2011 Baller Share Posted June 30, 2011 "The important thing is that MS is wrong!" When can I buy that shirt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old MS Accout Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 That was a photo shop. Go ahead and waste your time skiing without a wing. Boat gas is cheap. Shane, you have too much time on your hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MattP Posted June 30, 2011 Baller Share Posted June 30, 2011 Now... I guess @MS no I have to much time on my hands /vanilla2/uploads/FileUpload/15/915.png Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted June 30, 2011 Author Administrators Share Posted June 30, 2011 That could be a T-Shirt. If I get time tonight.... I can think if a lot of Ballers that would buy that one... I bet even Mrs. MS would get one... Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Become a Supporting Member or make a One-time Donation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted June 30, 2011 Author Administrators Share Posted June 30, 2011 @MS NOT PHOTOSHOP. The arrows and blow-up of the fin are photoshop but the Bob told me himself that at 35 or 34 he does not run a wing. Matt Brown said the same thing (I think... Matt, if I got that wrong I apologize) Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Become a Supporting Member or make a One-time Donation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller SM Posted June 30, 2011 Baller Share Posted June 30, 2011 When you ski wingless, do you add tip to compensate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted June 30, 2011 Author Administrators Share Posted June 30, 2011 No just go ski. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Become a Supporting Member or make a One-time Donation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old MS Accout Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 That T shirt Does Not Rock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Dirt Posted June 30, 2011 Baller Share Posted June 30, 2011 I rode my ski 5 rides with no wing and it got progressively worse. I am with MS on this one. When I got in scramble mode and pulled too long, I could not turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MrJones Posted June 30, 2011 Baller Share Posted June 30, 2011 If anybody is interested, I can tell you that both KLP and Matt Brown were wingless on the A2 at the Big Dawg. Didn't really look at Greg's ski. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted June 30, 2011 Author Administrators Share Posted June 30, 2011 The point is that it is worth a try. Some skier will like it and some will not. It is not a right or wrong thing... Well MS is wrong Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Become a Supporting Member or make a One-time Donation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Ham_Wallace Posted July 1, 2011 Baller Share Posted July 1, 2011 1. MS is wrong. 2. I want a T-Shirt. 3. A-2 works best wingless.(tried it yesterday after talking to KLP). 4. MS is wrong. 5. Ventral on A-2 with no rear wing rocks. 6. MS-is wrong. 7. Bless Mrs. MS. 8. Did I mention that I want a T-Shirt. 9. JTH will get a lot of mileage out of this. 10. Happy 4th of July to all and be safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old MS Accout Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 Ham, A ventral is a wing. I am not wrong. If I am wrong, I want everyone on this site to take your wings off, come to the ballers bash and we will have a ski against your average tourney. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ral Posted July 1, 2011 Baller Share Posted July 1, 2011 My conclusion from the picture is that Reflex rocks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted July 1, 2011 Author Administrators Share Posted July 1, 2011 When you live in the home state of Al Franken I guess the word "WRONG" means something else. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Become a Supporting Member or make a One-time Donation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller gjohnson Posted July 1, 2011 Baller Share Posted July 1, 2011 @Horton What does the word "WRONG" mean in the home state of the Sperminator? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted July 1, 2011 Author Administrators Share Posted July 1, 2011 I feel like I should send BLP a gift basket for helping me beat on MS. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Become a Supporting Member or make a One-time Donation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old MS Accout Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 Franken Sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Ed_Johnson Posted July 1, 2011 Baller Share Posted July 1, 2011 On that one MS is RIGHT !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted July 1, 2011 Author Administrators Share Posted July 1, 2011 http://www.cafepress.com/BallOfSpray2.551912888 /vanilla2/uploads/FileUpload/18/918.bmp Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Become a Supporting Member or make a One-time Donation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Stewpro Posted July 1, 2011 Baller Share Posted July 1, 2011 Tough Audience ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted July 1, 2011 Author Administrators Share Posted July 1, 2011 I think the next T-Shirt says "MS is the new Eric" Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Become a Supporting Member or make a One-time Donation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old MS Accout Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 Eric rocks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted July 1, 2011 Author Administrators Share Posted July 1, 2011 You going to get one of the t-shirts? You need me to make the babydoll version for Mrs.MS? Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Become a Supporting Member or make a One-time Donation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Mrs_MS Posted July 1, 2011 Baller Share Posted July 1, 2011 Size small...order confirmed...Check!!!! LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller eleeski Posted July 1, 2011 Baller Share Posted July 1, 2011 Since MS was nice to me I must come to his defense. Note that Bob Lapoint WAS a world champion. When he was a world champion he used a wing. Now he is not the world's best, oh and there is a picture of him NOT using a wing. The current senior world champion (Chet) is using 3 wings! MS has great insight. Horton is not only wrong but on a path to embarassment. Or banning me. Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old MS Accout Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 Eric Rocks and He is right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted July 2, 2011 Author Administrators Share Posted July 2, 2011 BLP was world champ 5 times at 36MPH. At 36 a wing is really needed. At 34 a wing is a tuning option and more skiers need to try skiing without it. Some will like it and some will not but the idea that you MUST use a wing is silly. MS said "Bob put lots of R&D into design and the wing was on the ski the whole time." Clearly that is not true. I should send Bob a thank you gift for this. I spend all year looking for ways to screw with MS and BLP just handed this to me. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Become a Supporting Member or make a One-time Donation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted July 2, 2011 Author Administrators Share Posted July 2, 2011 and it is Eric's fault Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Become a Supporting Member or make a One-time Donation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller eleeski Posted July 2, 2011 Baller Share Posted July 2, 2011 OK this will get me banned. If you throw a 20 pound lead weight on your ski (or elsewhere) you might not need a wing. Is this why Horton doesn't like wings? Sorry, that's mean so I'll buy you a beer, John. Of course that might not help with your no wing issues... Heavy bindings and fin blocks I mean! Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted July 2, 2011 Author Administrators Share Posted July 2, 2011 @eleeski I am 10 lbs lighter than that last time you saw me but I had that coming Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Become a Supporting Member or make a One-time Donation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted July 2, 2011 Author Administrators Share Posted July 2, 2011 Now order the t-shirt and or click on the Marine Products link and buy something :- ) Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Become a Supporting Member or make a One-time Donation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old MS Accout Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 You can bet Karina, Badal, April, Will and the rest of the HO team have wings on. Dont listen to Horton, dont waste boat gas. Leave the wing on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted July 2, 2011 Author Administrators Share Posted July 2, 2011 Will is at 36 so yes for sure. I think Greg does use a wing. April and Karina, I have no idea. But I bet they would try it. The point is you said.... Bob does all his R&D with a wing. The more you argue, the crazier you sound and the sooner you will be drinking Steel Reserve with Eric. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Become a Supporting Member or make a One-time Donation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted July 2, 2011 Author Administrators Share Posted July 2, 2011 Sorry Eric - you are the gold standard of crazy Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Become a Supporting Member or make a One-time Donation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skidawg Posted July 2, 2011 Baller Share Posted July 2, 2011 Hate to pee in ur chilli MS but matt brown and todd R, both skied w NO wing at the big dawg and they both tore it up, Matt had the top score of 3@41- shoulda been more and the editor only missed 1 39-no wing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old MS Accout Posted July 3, 2011 Share Posted July 3, 2011 No wing challange at the BALLERS BASH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Ham_Wallace Posted July 3, 2011 Baller Share Posted July 3, 2011 Depends on water temp and how many beers we consume. I'm in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ntx Posted July 3, 2011 Baller Share Posted July 3, 2011 I know Karina was running a 7 deg stock size wing about a month ago with the thin fin. (right after masters) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Dirt Posted July 3, 2011 Baller Share Posted July 3, 2011 I tried the mini ventral at the front of the fin and no wing on a 68 Vice. Best setting of the year. It comes around better but not much drag. Water temp is way up, around 89 F. I only have two rides on it. Maybe Horton is right or would that make MS right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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