2012 Connelly

[D-Law]

Does anybody have pictures of the new Prophecy and bindings from the Nationals?

[skidawg]

I emailed a pic to horton, he can put it up.

[D-Law]

Mr Horton?

[Horton]

Sorry was sleeping.... I will do it tonight if I can remember

 

[Than_Bogan]

Almost on this topic, I had a facinating discussion with Jamie about how he sets up hard shell boots.

 

The basic idea is you stand in your normal slalom stance (either in your current non-hard-shell boots or just on the ground), with a string taped to each knee-cap.

 

Because the position of your feet, including "pivot" (rotation on ski surface), "tilt" (front/back), and "cant" (rotation toward left or right of ski), these strings will hit the ground in certain spots.

 

Then when you get into your hard-shells, the strings should hit the ground in exactly the same spots.

 

Cool concept, and perhaps explains why I never got comfortable in hard shells -- because I never did anything like that and indeed didn't adjust my tilt or cant at all!

 

I'm probably still too lazy to deal with that many setup variables, but at least now I can see how you can have a CHANCE when searching an 8 dimensional space (4 things to set for each foot) for your ideal binding setup!

[walton]

The pics of Jamie from nationals give you a glimpse of it, looks interesting.

[MCskiFreak]

Looked at it at the global invitational seems like a super heavy set-up for a high end ski. The boots are made by the company that made Apollo Ono's speed skates but they seem like they are just way to heavy. Ski does look good though, and they are using the running surface is similar to the Connelly V's.

[Wish]

Hmmmmm... So that's 5 high end skies in the industry that I count that have a step type bottem: HO; S2, Coefficient Xsl, Couture - Connelly; Prophecy and V.

[Horton]

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[KM]

I did not see Connelly at Nationals. Must have set up their booth after I left (I skied Men 4 on the first day). Bindings look like Fogman setup with new/different hardshell boots.

[jipster43]

Connelly can't seem to get away from making super cool looking skis.

 

JP :)

[SteveY]

Demoed the ski this past weekend. The first thing I noticed was how little effort it took to get width on my pullout for the gate. Taking it easy pulled through the gate and was so early and wide at ball one I almost did not know what to do. The ski feels like its on rails when pulling through the wake but does not require alot of effort. Skied the easiest sets of my life. Bought the ski on Monday.

[Glydon]

Scot Ellis had me on the new v this spring and the ease of use to the step bottom was unreal!

[Ed_Johnson]

Since they are all made in the same factory is the new Connelly similar to the new S-2, since they both have the stepped bottom...... Just different graphics ?

[Wish]

I gotta think that maybe the concepts and the way they get that step bottom into the mold is most likely are very similar. Remember HO does this to 3 different skis and Con does it to 2 now but they are not the same shaped skis (Con vs HO I mean). There must be an advantage. The HO CoX I've been riding gets wide, very wide.

[Horton]

Each ski has own mold. Each brand has own design team.

[WIskier]

So in the future are we going to start seeing more high end skis with a stepped bottom?

[Horton]

there are already 3 .....

[Wish]

Not 3. There are 5. All with their own mold. HO; Coefficient, Couture, S2. Connelly; Prohpacy, V ride.

[Chef23]

The Coefficient and Coture are the same mold and the V isn't billed as a high end ski.

[Horton]

Whatever

[Ed_Johnson]

How do these step bottom skis ski in rougher water ?

[Wish]

CoX in ruff water was great. No tip chatter. Felt stable. Never felt like I was going to lose the tip or tail in poor conditions at the ball. Cannot speak for the other step bottom skis but I think there is a lot that goes into a ski design that makes it ruff water capable other than a step bottom. But I can definitively say for me the CoX performed very well in adverse conditions with little to no problems. Better than most skis I've tested this summer. Thread is a bit hijacked here so I'd like to bring it back by asking is there a better pic of the Connelly boots or ski?????? Hate the tease of just the shadowy pic above. I'm gonna say if the Prophacy was know as a slowish but very stable deep riding ski, than the step bottom just took slow out of the equasion. Could be huge.

[Horton]

I totally brain farted this. Here is the 2012 Connelly brochure http://ballofspray.com/DropBox/2012_Connelly_brochure.pdf

 

[Wish]

Prophecy..... WOW!! awesome look to the ski. Boots WOW!! I want to try them now!!!

[Horton]

I keep waiting for UPS to bring me mine. Don't you hate me?

[D-Law]

I'm like a kid at Christmas! A Carbon V! A new Prophecy! Great new bindings! Just when I start thinking about changing brands after 20+ years on Connelly Skis they make me stay again with products like this. Thanks John!

[walton]

Any word on the price point for the ski or boots? I loved my prophecy for both performance and price.

[Horton]

If anyone is already on the 2012 Prophecy, I could use fin and binding settings

[jamieb]

I run the new Prophecy 67 with the stealthy boots at 29.125 and the rear at 17.125. The fin is 6.8220 long, 2.53 deep, .74 from tail and 9er on the winger. If you run the new boots..read Thans post above..Canting your boots side/side is critical for most people. The boots are designed flat..I then super glue a few pennies along one side of the boot bottom to accommodate my canting needs. You may not need any, or might need to use nickels. The finished product will come with canting shims. The new ski is more than awesome. The boots!! also..the best I've ever ridden. Jamie

[Wish]

@jamieb. What would you say the primary performance difference is between the new Prophacy and previous year? And how much do you feel the step bottom had to do with it? Do you have any pics of the ski you could share? We have seen the brochure but some more of the boots would be great. Oh, do you know or does anyone know the MSRP on the ski and the boots???

[MCskiFreak]

I know the bevels were significantly changed for the new ski

[skidawg]

@jamieb, glad to see you post up on the HairBall's site, Good talking to you at Nat's, looking forward to trying your new ski/boot set up.

[Brian_M]

@Wish I was just speaking with H2OProshop and it sounds like this will be the pricing:

Carbon V - $799

Prophecy - $1050

Stealth binding system - $650

[ThePantsManCan]

Super Rad looking Bindings! Besides the completely new boots, what are the differences in release compared to the old Fogman Bindings? I heard some people were terrified of them. I am on HO EXO Bindings and like the two feet together on one bar idea.

[ThePantsManCan]

Are all these things available now?

[Than_Bogan]

Is there still a Connelly discount program similar to the old "EP discount?"

 

In any case, where can I order a teen-size neovest? (In the short term for a small co-worker who occasionally skis with us, but eventually to be used by my daughters.)

 

P.S. As if 2011 weren't already my best season, now Jamie has referred others to read a post by me! :)

 

P.P.S. Got see Jamie and Rossi duke it out for semi-official fun in VT last weekend. From the boat I got to witness Jamie using ridiculous strength, technique, and perhaps most of all patience to pull out a -39 where he ran crazy late the entire way. AWESOME!