Baller A_B Posted February 11, 2012 Baller Share Posted February 11, 2012 What is the standard prop on a 2009 SN? Make and diam/pitch? Best place to buy? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ForrestGump Posted February 11, 2012 Baller Share Posted February 11, 2012 Acme 422. 12.5x15.5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller thager Posted February 11, 2012 Baller Share Posted February 11, 2012 Check out Boarditup dot com He's a member here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller A_B Posted February 11, 2012 Author Baller Share Posted February 11, 2012 Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller A_B Posted February 11, 2012 Author Baller Share Posted February 11, 2012 Boarditup website won't load?? Will check it later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ The_MS Posted February 11, 2012 Baller_ Share Posted February 11, 2012 skidim SIA also ahs some 422s listed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller eleeski Posted February 11, 2012 Baller Share Posted February 11, 2012 Do any of the props fix the trick wake? Since the boat is obsolete now, one is not stuck with the specified prop. If a prop fixes the wake, that would be very cool. I offered someone at Nautique (Jody?) to test props on the SDSU boat but they weren't interested. If anyone has repropped and improved the trick table, please let me know. I might become a 196 fan! Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller A_B Posted February 11, 2012 Author Baller Share Posted February 11, 2012 Yes it does, he has sent an email to somebody on SIA. My friend ate his prop on his trailer prop guard (ironic) when pulling it out after the Annual Thanksgiving Chicken Run. His prop guard rails are very close to his prop, and he learned a very costly lesson! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller A_B Posted February 11, 2012 Author Baller Share Posted February 11, 2012 Trick table? Whats that? This is a slalom boat. I am too old an inflexible to trick anymore. Maybe I could strap my old saucer to my foot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Jody_Seal Posted February 11, 2012 Baller_ Share Posted February 11, 2012 422 is the stock prop on the 5.7 196 with a 668 on a 6 liter. Their are IMHO better options in the OJ products. And yes Eric the OJ helps minimize the turbulence in the table.....But I doubt that you would approve you just do not believe in the 196 product. 13X15.5 OJ is a great replacement for your boat. The 200 has now proved to be by far a better trick platform then that of the 196. National and world trick records in it's first 24 months of production have gone down including pulling the first female over 10,000 points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boarditup Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 I noticed my site is down. shoot me an e-mail at rider@boarditup.com and I'll quote you a price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller 6balls Posted February 12, 2012 Baller Share Posted February 12, 2012 What is the most killer prop for a 2000 196 w/GT40? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller A_B Posted February 12, 2012 Author Baller Share Posted February 12, 2012 @Boarditup, I passed your info to my friend Dave. I know he sent an email to a SIA ad, and I don't know how that is working out. Thanks. AB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller thager Posted February 12, 2012 Baller Share Posted February 12, 2012 Sixballs, What hull was that? TSC 1 or 2? My 02 has the 422. My bet is a 422 would work great!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller DanE Posted February 12, 2012 Baller Share Posted February 12, 2012 I also would like to know what prop is the best for a TSC 1, thinking of changing the prop to a newer one (has the original OJ 4rce now) along with an upgrade to the Z-box in order to mimic the feel of newer Zero off boats. Or am I just way out there with my thinking? Jody? Anyone in the know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jipster43 Posted February 12, 2012 Baller Share Posted February 12, 2012 I asked this same question a while back for a '93 Mastercraft 190 with the 285hp Indmar & 1:1 transmission. If anyone knows of a prop that may offer a better hole shot without compromising the wake, I'd be stoked to learn of it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller A_B Posted February 12, 2012 Author Baller Share Posted February 12, 2012 My friend had a '94 Dyne that we put a 4-blade OJ on and the hole shot improved, and we thought the table wasn't as turbulent.. I would think you would see similar results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Chuck_Dickey Posted February 12, 2012 Baller Share Posted February 12, 2012 Hitting the trailer with your propeller is due to having the trailer too deep on the ramp. This allows your boat to swing side to side too far and whack, there goes your prop. Boat guides on the trailer are angled outwards which allow the boat to swing too wide, shallowing the trailer a bit prevents this action Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller A_B Posted February 12, 2012 Author Baller Share Posted February 12, 2012 That is probably what happened. I was on the other side of the lake. Did a real number on the prop. Can't expect much from two guys who trailer a couple times a year on a makeshift ramp? Especially when it is cold and they are rushing.. Had to make a heck of a racket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller greghayes Posted February 16, 2012 Baller Share Posted February 16, 2012 6Balls and DanE - I have had very good success on my '97 Nautique (TS1 hull) with the Acme 668 (same as the 422 with a little more cup to bring down the RPM by a few hundred). I think it largely depends on your motor and where in the RPM range it develops the right power curve to give you a smooth pull. I recently installed Z-Box and used the same baselines with the 668 prop with great results. I am loving my boat right now - long live the vintage pull! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller JC McCavit Posted February 16, 2012 Baller Share Posted February 16, 2012 I once had the high RPM issue on a 91 Nautique after installing a ACME 422. Explained the problem to ACME and they switched it out for the 668. It was the smoothest prop I ever ran and it put the RPM right where it needed to be. I am considering switching out my 422 on my 97 GT-40 Nautique. I would like to hear what others think of the 668. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller A_B Posted February 16, 2012 Author Baller Share Posted February 16, 2012 I must have got lucky with the OJ prop on my '99 S?N GT-40. It is smooth, great hole shot (beats my friends '07 SN) and just has a good responsive feel to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ForrestGump Posted February 16, 2012 Baller Share Posted February 16, 2012 I also used an acme 470 3 blade on my 05 and 08 196. I preferred the 3 blade wake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller DanE Posted February 28, 2012 Baller Share Posted February 28, 2012 @AB Do you have the old cast OJ 4rce prop or a newer CNC ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller A_B Posted February 28, 2012 Author Baller Share Posted February 28, 2012 I have the original OJ prop that came on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jhughes Posted February 28, 2012 Baller Share Posted February 28, 2012 I've run a couple different props on the '00 SN (TSC1) and always come back to the 422. Absolutely terrific all-around performance and unmatched smoothness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller A_B Posted February 28, 2012 Author Baller Share Posted February 28, 2012 The 422 or OJ 4B would be an upgrade over a standard 3 blade IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller DanE Posted February 29, 2012 Baller Share Posted February 29, 2012 @greghayes You don´t happen to have some sense of what the 668 did to your fuel consumption? Reason I ask is I´m in Sweden, gas almost 9$/USgal so it kinda matters... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller greghayes Posted February 29, 2012 Baller Share Posted February 29, 2012 DanE - I can't say I noticed any real difference, but I don't track fuel consumption closely. Totally non-scientific anecdote: when we were using my boat for a clinic, it used much, much less gas than the more modern Nautiques we were running (seemed like 33% less for a day's use). I guess that, theoretically, the lower rpms should help with fuel economy and your cost of fuel might make the payback time pretty quick for your use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller DanE Posted March 1, 2012 Baller Share Posted March 1, 2012 @greghayes Thank you Greg, do you have at hand where your baselines ended up? I would really appreciate such info as baselines between our boats should get very close with CNC props (allthough water properties and such will differ but still..). Since I´m going to order a prop from overseas it would be nice to have some kind of anticipated baseline rpm´s. I did contact ACME to get recommendations and to make life easy they made me choose between the 422 and the 668, that´s why I highly value input from someone with first hand experience with that hull/prop combo. I don´t know a prop shop locally I would trust for recupping either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller greghayes Posted March 1, 2012 Baller Share Posted March 1, 2012 DanE - Since I just set up the Z-box, I happen to have all my baselines handy on my phone. Note that these are the "true" baselines, just as Stargazer dials in. As seen elsewhere in this forum, many have had good success lowering their baselines to tune in Stargazer performance. I have not yet taken this step. Here you go...for my 280hp, EFI 1997 SN, running an Acme 668 mph - rpm 36 - 3445 34 - 3225 32 - 3050 30 - 2815 28 - 2680 26 - 2485 24 - 2320 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller DanE Posted March 1, 2012 Baller Share Posted March 1, 2012 Thank You very much, that´s some serious low baselines, guess I could go with that since I have the 310 hp GT-40. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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