Baller Stevie Boy Posted August 25, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 25, 2012 So how much fitter and stronger, do you need to be to ski behind a competition ski boat ie: Mastercraft - Nautique - Malibu etc, running perrfect pass or zero off, as opposed to a boat with, let,s say a 150hp outboard motor on it, with no speed control ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Chef23 Posted August 25, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 25, 2012 I don't think it is so much fitter and stronger but your technique needs to be much better. Being stronger probably will let you muscle am outboard but it won't let you muscle an inboard. Watch some girls 3 skiers run through 35 off and they aren't anywhere near as strong as I am but ski much better than I am Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller GAJ0004 Posted August 25, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 25, 2012 Being fit helps with the stamina to let you ski longer, but flexibility is everything. Water skiing is a hard sport to train for. You want to be as strong as possible, but also be as light weight as possible. I am researching doing P90X over the winter using what they call the lean schedule. I am built more like a wrestler or football player more so than a water skier. Skiing when you are not tired helps make your technique better.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Waternut Posted August 25, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 25, 2012 You'll be fine but you will get tired much faster behind a comp boat. Your grip will probably be the first thing goes out. On the plus side, the wake will be so much better and will inspire confidence to push your skill further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller eyepeeler Posted August 25, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 25, 2012 @chef23 If these girls 3 skiers can run 35 off and you can't... Do not arm wrestle one of them! They could break your arm. Do not Indian leg wrestle one of them! They could break your leg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skigirl Posted August 25, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 25, 2012 For training, check out the TRX suspension systems, or their rip trainer. Get strength, core, and intervals in your workout. No I don't sell it, just love it. Think it also helps my hand/grip strength. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Stevie Boy Posted August 25, 2012 Author Baller Share Posted August 25, 2012 @skigirl here,s a tip for you don't grip the handle, just hook it like a rock climber, just as strong, stops you pulling your arms in ( because you will not be able ) and reduces those sore hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Waternut Posted August 26, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 26, 2012 @Stevie Boy That is my ideal way to grip that handle but you have to have decent grip strength to be able to do that and you can't have stubby fingers. There are some people I ski with that physically can't hold the handle in their fingertips...not even to ski straight and not even using a skinny elliptical handle. I can hold the handle in my right hand fingertips but my left hand is a little weaker and unfortunately I have to grip it a little deeper in my palm which causes calluses on one hand only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Skoot1123 Posted August 27, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 27, 2012 @GAJ0004 - I have done P90X, twice, and also 2/3's of P90X2. Let me tell you, it works. First two times out skiing this year I was barely sore. I'll be doing more rounds of P90X2 and P90X this winter. Keeps you in shape and really builds the core. Pushups, pullups, and lots of balance! Highly recommend it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller sunvalleylaw Posted August 27, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 27, 2012 LOL! I started doing the Gillian Michaels "Ripped in 30" DVD's with my wife, and they are essentially P90x lite according to my understanding. Helped a ton! I will be looking into some P90x related workouts for this coming year, now that I am comfortable with the Gillian stuff. Coming from an outboard background, and skiing more often behind my buddy's comp boat this year, I can say that strength is important, but not necessarily more so behind a comp boat as opposed to the outboard. Yes, you can yank an outboard around some, but I think what is more important moving to the comp boat is one's technique!! With good proper technique, I think a comp boat is much easier to ski behind given the consistent pull and tracking. My brother, skiing with me this summer behind my parents' old outboard, coming off of his normal comp boat, complained of the "bungy" feeling behind the outboard. He said it was hard to know where you were. I feel that I am starting to understand what he means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ The_MS Posted August 27, 2012 Baller_ Share Posted August 27, 2012 Just take a look at our supreme leader of BOS. If he can ski, anyone can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Razorskier1 Posted August 27, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 27, 2012 I think any program of regular strength training in the offseason inclusive of daily core work will put you in great shape to ski. When I'm not "fighting with the boat" my hands never hurt, my body doesn't ache and I could ski all day. When I revert to my old, bad habits, my body breaks down. I think skiing behind a strong inboard is probably easier on the body than skiing behind a weaker inboard or an outboard when done correctly, as the boat will enable you to ski faster with less effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taelan28 Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 @Razorskier1 YES! on the inboard being easier when done correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller GAJ0004 Posted August 27, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 27, 2012 Thanks @Skoot1123 I have talked to lots of people about it, and everyone likes P90X. I ride a 44'' trick ski. They only make 1 size bigger.. I did weight training 3 days a week last winter, and I bulked up too much. I am thinking I could save some money on the gym membership and the gas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Skoot1123 Posted August 28, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 28, 2012 @GAJ0004 - you will definitely save some money both on gas and gym membership, with better results! At least that's what the case was for my wife and I. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller GAJ0004 Posted August 28, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 28, 2012 @Skoot1123, I think the plyometrics would be very useful for trick skiing. Tricks is getting harder as I get older. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buski Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 @Skoot1123 are you keeping up with the videos during ski season? If so what's your ski schedule vs. when you're doing the videos? I did X and X2 over winter but since I started skiing I've mostly been taking a break and was going to pick up again in the fall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Skoot1123 Posted August 28, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 28, 2012 @buski - I have not kept up with the videos during ski season as my schedule gets crazy during the late spring/summer months. Yard work to keep up with (although mowing was very rare this summer!!) and a 2 year old to keep happy. However, I do plan on getting back into during the fall/winter. No better way to stay in shape than those workouts. Now that I think about it, I did continue to do Ab Ripper two to three times a week for a while during the early part of ski season. Then I just had to take a break from it. In the meantime I'm keeping up with hockey once a week and skiing as much as I can. That has at least helped me stay in some shape. I'm ready to go at it again though starting this fall! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller GAJ0004 Posted August 28, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 28, 2012 I stay out of the gym during ski season. I do tons of rollerblading in the spring and fall. I tried working out on the days I did not ski, but ended up with a minor injury to my shoulder from overuse. I save my energy to ski.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller GAJ0004 Posted August 28, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 28, 2012 I am thinking 2 rounds of P90X for me over the winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Chef23 Posted August 28, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 28, 2012 I have tried to keep up with the gym over the summer and until the last three weeks or so it worked out pretty well where I wrapped in two strength workouts a week along with skiing 4-6 days a week. I have been travelling a ton the last 5 weeks for work and ski tournaments and it has killed my gym time. When I was working out and skiing I was feeling pretty good overall and I have been skiing as well this year as ever. For the record I am not doing P90X but more of a cross fit based program put together by a trainer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Jody_Seal Posted August 28, 2012 Baller_ Share Posted August 28, 2012 One of my ski partners is probably the most fit 55 year old in the world and he loves to ski and he tries hard. He can ski non stop forever turning and burning,,,,problem!! It is called talent! as much as he tries to run the course his success is minimal yet he keeps banging at it when we ski the course, also he is not new to water skiing and is an accomplished snow skier the course just escapes him. he though is helping me with my PT and gives me instruction to better wellness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jimbrake Posted August 28, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 28, 2012 @Jody Seal - an accomplished snow skier? In Panama City, FL? Say what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Jody_Seal Posted August 28, 2012 Baller_ Share Posted August 28, 2012 Grew up in Denver! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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