Baller Gloersen Posted December 28, 2012 Baller Share Posted December 28, 2012 First two sets on the 67” A3. Kept it at 28@34. 54A/58W; a tad nippy for me. Out of the box the fin was 2.497/6.855/.744, set it to “stock” at 2.510/6.845/.730/w8; FB 29.5 Wasted the first set; way too much offside. 2nd set 2.508/6.836/.740/w8, FB 29.375; it rocked! A bit too much; .735 next set. It seems quite a departure from the A1 and with better turning characteristics than the A2. No point in attempting to describe its attributes until more rides at shorter lines, but I suspect this ski will be very popular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Omland Posted December 28, 2012 Baller Share Posted December 28, 2012 What kind of binding is that on the front? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurosport Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 @omland its a reflex hardshell on the front Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Omland Posted December 28, 2012 Baller Share Posted December 28, 2012 @eurosport It looks sweet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ThePantsManCan Posted January 11, 2013 Baller Share Posted January 11, 2013 So are the 67" skis out there yet??? I'm getting mighty impatient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jayski Posted January 11, 2013 Baller Share Posted January 11, 2013 yep, got a 67" just before Xmas... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Ed_Johnson Posted January 11, 2013 Baller Share Posted January 11, 2013 @jayski...How do you like your 67. Still waiting for a Red 68." Had a green one come into the store Tues, so I know the mold is done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Dirt Posted January 11, 2013 Baller Share Posted January 11, 2013 @Gloersen I agree the A3 rips and with your Greg and Marcus comment. Call or email Greg for pricing. He is very competitive and you get all the support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jayski Posted January 11, 2013 Baller Share Posted January 11, 2013 @Ed_Johnson...it's a nice ski, carries speed well through the turn, pretty stable and predictable, much better than the A2 by a long shot, I was 100% sold on using it as my ride this year I liked it that much, but I hopped on a 67" Endo and the A3 went back in the box, the Endo is incredible, unbelievably wide and early at every bouy, turns automatically and little effort required... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ The_MS Posted January 11, 2013 Baller_ Share Posted January 11, 2013 @Dirt Have you ran 41 on it yet? Do you have a green one or are you waiting to borrow @Hortons again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Dirt Posted January 11, 2013 Baller Share Posted January 11, 2013 @MS 41 is impossible for me. I have peaked with my lack of natural ability and balance. Hard work only gets you so far. If I can "borrow" any ski from Horton, I will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ The_MS Posted January 11, 2013 Baller_ Share Posted January 11, 2013 @Dirt See if you can borrow a 66.5 in green and send it my way. With all the hype, I am ready to sell my N1 and give the green a rip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller bkreis Posted January 12, 2013 Baller Share Posted January 12, 2013 Miamiskinautiques.com has 66, 67.. Hope to try one soon, and 68's in! They said the 67's just came in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ForrestGump Posted January 12, 2013 Baller Share Posted January 12, 2013 @Gloersen Don't be too quick to think that's too much fin. Matt Brown gave me Marcus's A2 settings which were long and deep like that. I thought too much. By the end of the year, I was pretty much where Marcus was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jayski Posted January 12, 2013 Baller Share Posted January 12, 2013 If any one is looking for a 67" (Black/Red) I have one for sale, 7 sets rode w/250 dual lock on it $950 send me a PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller bkreis Posted January 13, 2013 Baller Share Posted January 13, 2013 Rode a 67 a3 today, I think my s2 could be for sale.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mshaw200 Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Been on the A3 for about a month....pretty sure I've run more 39's in that time then I did all last summer. This ski rocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ktm300 Posted January 14, 2013 Baller Share Posted January 14, 2013 I am in between on the size. Go up or down with this ski? 185lbs 6' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ktm300 Posted January 14, 2013 Baller Share Posted January 14, 2013 Skiing at 34 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Ham_Wallace Posted January 14, 2013 Baller Share Posted January 14, 2013 Same here KTM300. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ForrestGump Posted January 14, 2013 Baller Share Posted January 14, 2013 Man, if it wasn't 40 degrees in Houston right now, I would find it damn hard to not buy an A3 to play with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Wish Posted January 15, 2013 Baller_ Share Posted January 15, 2013 @MShaw200. Amazing skiing for this time of year. Does help its been 10 degrees above normal here in Central FL. @Gloersen maybe you mentioned this on another thread but I gotta ask cause I missed it. WHAT HAPPENNED TO YOUR HEAD?? Love that lake behind your head. Set a PB on it this past Oct tourny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller dave2ball Posted February 5, 2013 Baller Share Posted February 5, 2013 I have a 66" that a fire buddy of mine does not want and need to sell. 900.00 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skihart Posted February 5, 2013 Baller Share Posted February 5, 2013 Dave, PM sent! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller als2104 Posted February 6, 2013 Baller Share Posted February 6, 2013 Does anyone have the size chart? I'm 5' 11" 170 lbs. 36 mph skier. Coming off a 66.5" A2. Do I go 66" or 67"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jayski Posted February 6, 2013 Baller Share Posted February 6, 2013 Have a 67" A3 for sale also, only 5 sets on it...$950 blank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Ed_Johnson Posted February 7, 2013 Baller Share Posted February 7, 2013 @Gloersen: Only three sets so far, but I Love this thing...On my S2, I felt I pushed it as far as I could. The A3 is without limits...All your previous comments were right on...This ski LOVES aggression. My factory setup was similar to yours. Decided to forget that and used my best S2 settings which had the same fin...6.750 Jaws, 6.820 tips, 2.500, .750 9 degrees for cold water. Ski rocked from the start. Really tight turns with great acceleration, wide and early. It tends to ride tip high though..Only problem I had was it did not like to be forced into a turn if running late at all...Totally my fault for adding a slight rotation at the end of the turn....Subconscious sees the buoy and says "TURN NOW." In the Lake for sure....Did that a couple of times and learned my lesson.....If I am countered at the apex, slightly free of the boat, with a tight line, and slide the hip to the handle, the turn is unreal. Key is Patience not Panic....Slight Spike for acceleration and cast out off the centerline, and you are golden. For my third set today I added some tip, 6.830....Cured any tendency to overturn, but felt a little to stable...Plan to split the difference for the next set at 6.825 and 8 degrees wing. Hope to be in the zone to capture back some of the quickness, but not easily overturning. Let me know how your doing on yours, and thanks for all your previous info...It was really helpful.......Ballers helping Ballers.....ED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Steven_Haines Posted February 8, 2013 Baller Share Posted February 8, 2013 @Gloersen, What are you gaining w ur forward movements? Im guessing that ur tightening the radius of ur turn. I'm thinking of trying that on my S2 once I'm back on the water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Steven_Haines Posted February 8, 2013 Baller Share Posted February 8, 2013 Ya...that's funny! I was just typing in another thread that fin set up is like Voodoo! Thanks for the response! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Wish Posted February 8, 2013 Baller_ Share Posted February 8, 2013 I found the S2 was counterintuitive to fin movements as well. It's like the opposite works. Sounds like that may be an HO thing. Just sayn... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Steven_Haines Posted February 9, 2013 Baller Share Posted February 9, 2013 I've been waffling on which way to go. I've had luck w both. Weight also factors in if u tend to have sizeable weight swings. Last season I was 185 on a 67.5. I'm now 202 but will hopefully be back down when I get back on the water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Dirt Posted February 23, 2013 Baller Share Posted February 23, 2013 @mshaw200 Do you have A3 setup numbers you would be willing to share? Sounds like you have been on it a while and ripping? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thrix Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 I tried it and I am not so sure. I come from an A2 which worked great for me, but the A3? Don't know. Nothing in particular against it, just comes short of the expectation created by the hype. I would like to see what others think. Haven't tried the nano one, but have tried the nano mid without much success either. It's also the beginning of the season so it's difficult to tell if it is you or the ski. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ktm300 Posted March 11, 2013 Baller Share Posted March 11, 2013 @Gloersen What is your rear boot measurement/spread? Thx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mshaw200 Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 @Dirt: I don't mind sharing them, sorry it took me so long. The tail rocker on my A3 is a little flatter then normal. Not sure what, if any, bearings that would have on the settings. I still don't think they are 100% where I want them to be. But this is where I am for now. Length is 6.8455 Depth is 2.487 DFT is .7665 (with slot calipers) and I'm running 8.5 on the wing. Good luck, hope these help. Let me know how they work out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Dirt Posted March 12, 2013 Baller Share Posted March 12, 2013 @mshaw200 thank you for sharing the settings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Mike Posted March 14, 2013 Baller Share Posted March 14, 2013 Kudo's to Greg Badal for helping me get set up. Bought one from him today. Been off the water for 4 to 5 years. No reason good enough just glad I have made the decision to get back and learn what I can and hope to share good times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller matthewbrown Posted March 15, 2013 Baller Share Posted March 15, 2013 67 A3---- 29.5" 0.775, 2.515, 6.850 66 A3-----29 1/16" 0.775, 2.515, 6.850 these seem to be the best numbers on average...some skis will have a slightly different flex and rocker so adjustments would need to be made accordingly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ForrestGump Posted March 15, 2013 Baller Share Posted March 15, 2013 I finally feel like I am riding my A2 in the right spot, after a full year on it. So it must be time to change to an A3 now. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Ed_Johnson Posted March 15, 2013 Baller Share Posted March 15, 2013 @ShaneH...If you liked the A2, you will LOVE the A3.....faster, turns better, and less effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ktm300 Posted March 15, 2013 Baller Share Posted March 15, 2013 Thanks @matthewbrown.com for saving all of us trying A3's some time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Mike Posted March 16, 2013 Baller Share Posted March 16, 2013 cool...thanks Matt. ditto KTM and will record the info. Badal set up a softer flex 67 for me. I do not know the flex numbers yet but can post when the ski arrives if anyone is interested. He also set up the fin for me and I will not mess with it until someone super savvy can see how I ski after several sets in this cold PNW water. Have baggy will ski :) Been a long time for this ol' guy but stoked to get back on the water even at slower speeds and much longer line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoFast Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 Hi guys, new here. I am looking at the A3 to replace my Monza (I am assuming the technology has advanced in 6 years). I was encouraged by the positive reviews until I read that a few of you passed on the A3. Anymore feedback out there on the A3? I really don't have the option to demo the different skis, so your reviews help a lot. PB...32 off @34mph Thanks Much! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Ed_Johnson Posted March 24, 2013 Baller Share Posted March 24, 2013 Skied on the A3 the last couple of months and found it to be the Best HO has ever produced. Totally blew away my A2 and S2 from last year..Holds crazy cross course angle and can really turn. Very responsive to tuning..Once you find the sweet spot it rocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoFast Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 Thanks for the input Ed! I am likely going to get one, just thought I'd look for any last minute input. Anyone else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller TWB Posted March 27, 2013 Baller Share Posted March 27, 2013 @Ed_Johnson Great. I Had an A2 two years ago. Was on the S2 last summer. I found it to be more consistent (and more predictable on my offside) than the A2. Now I have to get an A3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ktm300 Posted April 25, 2013 Baller Share Posted April 25, 2013 @Gloersen or anybody else riding an A3. Everything you wrote about this ski seems spot on. This ski has an onside that is so much better than what I have had that it is a keeper for that alone. I am still in neoprene, not quite in ski shape and cannot completely trust what I feel. However, I have made some adjustments to get more tip after the finish and through the wakes offside. As you said, counter intuitively, moving the fin forward seemed to help the offside more than anything. I moved the fin back some and it took ski out of the water offside (go figure). Been skiing with DFT .760-775. Going forward requires me to go deeper to tame that onside and deep feels kinda stuck to me. I have not tried going back to .730. Seems like initially, you had some success in that area. Ed Johnson rode it back (.750) I assume that somebody associated with HO liked the stock settings. Is back that far worth burning a set or two to try? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Gloersen Posted April 25, 2013 Author Baller Share Posted April 25, 2013 @ktm300 - ultimately the .775 range seemed best. Have you tried the Matt Brown suggested settings? (.775/2.515/6.850). Maybe someone else can chime in on what KLP might be leaning towards, especially if you're considering going back to .730. If so I might try .730/6.860-6.865/2.490-2.495. IMHO it's always worth making a big fin change to see if it seems better, so long as you don't strip the block set screws by doing so too often! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ktm300 Posted April 25, 2013 Baller Share Posted April 25, 2013 So far, the Matt Brown #'s are the winners. Tried em when my body was not capable of the aggression they delivered. Have more sets under my belt now and will try them again tonight and see if my body can keep up. That onside...wow. If I can keep my hips up and inside the turn better, I think the offside may light up too. I am just ending up on the tail too much at the finish. Thanks for your input Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Ed_Johnson Posted April 25, 2013 Baller Share Posted April 25, 2013 Looked up my notes to see the final settings I had on the 68" A3...6.824 Tips... 2.505...and .750 with 8 degrees of wing. While I run my Mapple at .780, the A3 worked well at .750 but the sensitive area I found was length....At 6.820 it had a tendency to easily overturn...Reset to 6.830 and it was a little hesitant..Split the difference at 6.824 and it was perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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