Phil2360 Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 Been thinking on this a bit & haven't come up with a solution yet. Wondering if anyone would like to offer any input. The wake boarders out there are fitting lengths of poly pipe over their ropes, spliting it at the end & attaching it to the yolks of their handles so the camera always stays parallel to the handle. Works pretty well for them, but for slaloming it would be better if it stayed level with the horizon. so basically the pipe idea would need to be able to move & be counterweighted etc. How would the lateral thinkers out there approach this? Found this, Interesting, but not really working properly. Cheers Phil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil2360 Posted February 27, 2013 Author Share Posted February 27, 2013 Embedded Video Won't work ATM. Try Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MattP Posted February 27, 2013 Baller Share Posted February 27, 2013 I almost threw up watching that. After I recover ill think about a solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Steven_Haines Posted February 27, 2013 Baller Share Posted February 27, 2013 Could the camera be used as your counter weight below the rope? Or would the rope obstruct the view too much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller BraceMaker Posted February 27, 2013 Baller Share Posted February 27, 2013 Of course whatever is on the rope must also not snag bouys, or catch and throw the camera off. I would wonder about using a handle guard. @h2odawg79 - I stole your picture for this, if you have a problem with that I'll delete - Otherwise you get equal credit for the idea ;) I needed a photo of a handle with one installed. http://i56.tinypic.com/2lvhh10.jpg null Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil2360 Posted February 27, 2013 Author Share Posted February 27, 2013 Did I hear him mention "How not to send rollers down the lake"? About a minute in... Got me a bit miffed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller kmenard Posted February 27, 2013 Baller Share Posted February 27, 2013 This was my initial thought as well, but I think the view would wind up just being a grimace face Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller SkiJay Posted February 27, 2013 Baller Share Posted February 27, 2013 I love a challenge, but this one seems like a lot of work to a achive the same result as a cheap camera with a zoom lense... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil2360 Posted February 28, 2013 Author Share Posted February 28, 2013 @Bracemaker, Bit close to the skier. Reckon about where the handle joins the mainline would be a good distance to view body position etc from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil2360 Posted February 28, 2013 Author Share Posted February 28, 2013 One thing I could just not notice in that video was this and this. Now I can't get a Panda for that. Surely Not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MattP Posted February 28, 2013 Baller Share Posted February 28, 2013 @Phil2360 that was one brave post. It has been good knowing you.... I saw it but dared not to post about it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ForrestGump Posted February 28, 2013 Baller Share Posted February 28, 2013 @Horton is actually a pretty damn good wakeboarder. Most people don't know that. I have video evidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted February 28, 2013 Administrators Share Posted February 28, 2013 -5000 points Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ForrestGump Posted February 28, 2013 Baller Share Posted February 28, 2013 It would appear that I've earned the Not So Much Badge for telling the truth. BOS is the USSR of waterskiing forums, it would appear. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted February 28, 2013 Administrators Share Posted February 28, 2013 @shaneh to quote the X baller who cannot be named "BallOfSpray is the Death Star of water skiing". you mister Hill are no Luke Skywalker Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ForrestGump Posted February 28, 2013 Baller Share Posted February 28, 2013 Ahhhhh hahahahahahahahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller BraceMaker Posted February 28, 2013 Baller Share Posted February 28, 2013 @phil2360 - I agree. I think that to pull this off, the only way you'll have a "torsional" stability for the camera is to have the camera between two taught lines, connected to the handle. Anything that hangs on the line with a weight will spin and swivel - so you could buy one of those deep V get up handles, fill the entire V with plastic sheeting to hold the camera and do the same. But it might be hard to get up that way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller RazorRoss3 Posted February 28, 2013 Baller Share Posted February 28, 2013 if you set up a rail/track on the boat cover that you could hook the camera into, then took a rope and hooked the camera to the ski rope then the skiers side to side motion would pull the camera side to side following the skier, the track would have to match the curve of the skiers path nearly perfectly but it would work if you could manage the set-up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MattP Posted February 28, 2013 Baller Share Posted February 28, 2013 Y'all are making this way to complicated. I have a solution. Will post later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller tfriess Posted February 28, 2013 Baller Share Posted February 28, 2013 I too have been pondering this idea for a while. The best idea I came up with is to attach the seat post mount on the rope/handle. Might not be very solid tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil2360 Posted February 28, 2013 Author Share Posted February 28, 2013 We've flown a kite like this one behind the boat. Was only at about 15 mph though. Would provide an interesting vantage point though if you could find something that would handle over 30mph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller WBLskier Posted February 28, 2013 Baller Share Posted February 28, 2013 You get a pretty good vantage point when mounted on the front of the ski. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil2360 Posted February 28, 2013 Author Share Posted February 28, 2013 Must be some sort of towable small chase plane/gliders/blimps etc available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller SkiJay Posted March 1, 2013 Baller Share Posted March 1, 2013 The real fun could be RC helicopter filming. Some of these quadcopters are camera ready, fast and coordinate programmable, as in program it to fly 10' above the water down the ski lake at 34 mph while filming. Hmmmmm..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ForrestGump Posted March 1, 2013 Baller Share Posted March 1, 2013 Can you imagine one of those getting tangled in @Horton 's hair??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h2odawg79 Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 How about using a 3/4" PVC "T" Run the rope through the top (Horizontal) of the "T" Glue a 3/4" threaded pipe fitting adapter into the bottom of the (Vertical) "T" and attach a 6" (Metal) Pipe Nipple for a Counter wgt. (the longer the better for stability) Mount a GOPRO to the top side of the (Horizontal) "T" above the Rope. May need to add 2 Bushings to the inside of the Cross (Horiz.) section, around the Rope to improve stability and greatly reduce the "Swing effect"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller RazorRoss3 Posted March 1, 2013 Baller Share Posted March 1, 2013 I any of these ideas so far, what would happen to the go pro in the event of a big slack hit? Or in one of those situations where the skier gets load locked and the handle ends up in the drivers lap? I feel like that kind of shock can't be good for any camera. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller igkya Posted March 1, 2013 Baller Share Posted March 1, 2013 Wasn't there someone that posted a vid on here using a GoPro where he used a 5' section of PVC at the handle where he had it attached? He made several attempts/changes before he got it right. Seemed like it worked alright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdallshouse Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 This is what you need: http://www.e-z-cam.com/ and you can order it from here with free shipping: http://www.waterskiatlanta.com/ez-cam-video-mount/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller igkya Posted March 1, 2013 Baller Share Posted March 1, 2013 Here's a link to the video I was referring to ... and here's the thread... http://www.ballofspray.com/forum#/discussion/comment/69287 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil2360 Posted March 1, 2013 Author Share Posted March 1, 2013 @igkya, Plenty of examples of the pipe on the rope type mountings out there, particularly if you google "Gopro wakeboard rope mount". Main thing is that the pipe they use is generally attached to the handle so the camera stays parallel with the handle. For Slalom footage, keeping the camera more in line with the horizon would be a bit more desirable. That's the main challenge I was considering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ScarletArrow Posted March 1, 2013 Baller Share Posted March 1, 2013 Still want to hear @MattP solution Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h2odawg79 Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 I think with most Pro photo shoots the Skier is @ a very comfortable length. i.e. -32 this provides great opportunity for Good Shots and does not push the skier any where near their limits. Creating smooth and controlled lines. I believe this concept would be ideal for the GoPro Rope idea as well. This would achieve better results and reduce the chance of scrappy, herky jerky passes that could promote the opportunity for serious slack hits and launches of Scud Missle Handles. I think this Camera angle might be best if used as an alternative angle in a Very Cool edited Video! (Key words: Alternative Angle) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MattP Posted March 2, 2013 Baller Share Posted March 2, 2013 @ScarletArrow my idea was more or less what is shown in that video. Kinda. Ill think about it more and if I find the time write something up. Hmm ill ponder it on my drive to Orlando this weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenxteninc Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 I have an option for you that is pretty clean, stays vertical no matter what you do with the handle. its new but functional for skiiers, wakerboarders even scuba it works as your very own personal filming crew. I tried not to make it gopro specific it can work with gopro, contour and possibly other cameras you just need to get a tripod mount for your specific camera. They will be going for 50$ ping me if your interested.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil2360 Posted July 3, 2013 Author Share Posted July 3, 2013 So is this it? http://zenxteninc.com/GALLERY/large/Gopro-wake-1.jpg Would like to know a bit more about how it works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenxteninc Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 ahhh... yeah that was round 1.. the concept in my head.. after playing a bit I needed it to plane out when the rope was in the water so I am on like round 4 right now.. Here is a vid from round 3.. April is awesome she took like 8 passes that morning.. totally lucky to get out with her, dan and mike. Im hoping to catch someone going out wednesday at saquarro lake to test round 4.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenxteninc Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Here is some of the latest footage.. we were only out there an hour and I have a couple things to do that will make it more stable.. good stuff though. . looking for a license / industry support to get this out there.. hit me up if your interested.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cusefan78 Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 This mount looks great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ski6 Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 Use the roll bar mount and put it directly on the handle. Got some pretty cool shots like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MZito Posted August 6, 2014 Baller Share Posted August 6, 2014 @ski6 can you post a pic of the camera on handle? Cool shot! Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cusefan78 Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 Are you running it on video mode or just having someone remotely shooting pics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cusefan78 Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 Wanted to bump this back up. Spoke to hank and he's sending me one this week to try out. Can't wait to try this out. Over the last few weeks I have tried a few different rope mounts and wasn't happy with any of them. This one really seems like it might be pretty close to what I'm looking for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Taylor Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 So far I think Hanks idea is the best and most stable I have seen. Hoping to try it out! http://zenxteninc.com/wake.asp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenxteninc Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 minor changes.. big results.. Check out how stable the new setup is.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Drago Posted October 20, 2014 Baller Share Posted October 20, 2014 Caution: 9 minute tube ride. Awesome tube! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenxteninc Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 ha.. good heads up on that... so its almost there folks.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenxteninc Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 makin it smoother... I just need to ride smoother... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Tom351 Posted May 21, 2015 Baller Share Posted May 21, 2015 Here is my version (simple PVC Tee)- I think there was a link to my slalom video a while back in this thread- here is a wake clip with slo-mo added: You can kind of see the setup on the rope in this clip taken from a tube: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenxteninc Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 ha.. found someone who can ride.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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