Baller foxriverat Posted September 19, 2013 Baller Share Posted September 19, 2013 Been looking to upgrade my old 66 kd 7000 which when I bought years ago had no idea what I was doing and it probably was too much of a ski for me. Took about 8 years off skiing and got back into it this year. Picked up a 96 supra ts6m comp ho gt40. I am 53 5.7 165 athletic build. Skiing at 15 off now 34 mph cant get through the course yet. but getting close. Plan on getting some lessons in spring before our season starts next year. So I have been researching 34mph skis and watching skiitagain Ebay to find a good deal. I hear a lot of good things about the senate c. But being inbetween sizes I don't know if I should go with a 65 or 67 or if I want to. Or find a 34 mph ski in a 66. I saw a 2011new 66 syndicate s1 on ebay for $399 cant find too many owner reviews on the ski. Anyone have an opinion. Also what would be the pros and cons of skiing on the 65 or 67 at my size? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller tjm Posted September 19, 2013 Baller Share Posted September 19, 2013 I'm on a 65" Strada 55, which is a prototype Senate C. I'm about your size. The difference between the prototype and the production is the core. The prototype has the same pvc core as the Strada. It is a great ski. I have an extra one that I have never used listed on ski-iti-again. Negotiable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller foxriverat Posted September 19, 2013 Author Baller Share Posted September 19, 2013 Thanks tjm. But I believe the strada is above my skill level. And with not having the surface area of the wider senate. I think the 65 would be too short for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller bhs Posted September 19, 2013 Baller Share Posted September 19, 2013 @foxriverat the ski Tjm is selling IS a Senate. The prototype for the senate was called the Strada 55. Skied it. Nice ski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller tjm Posted September 19, 2013 Baller Share Posted September 19, 2013 @foxriverat it is a Senate C, only with a pvc core. Everything else is the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller tjm Posted September 19, 2013 Baller Share Posted September 19, 2013 if you are considering a Senate C, then you really should consider this. If you are into graphics, then don't waste your time, since it is a prototype, Radar used old graphics. However, if you ski on the Fox we are in the same area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller foxriverat Posted September 19, 2013 Author Baller Share Posted September 19, 2013 Yes tjm I ski the fox in st Charles. I have my boat on a lift at my friends hse. I am just kind of leary about going down to a 65 or up to a 67 what would be better for me to progress? I have found the 2013 senate c as cheep as $449 shipped Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller tjm Posted September 19, 2013 Baller Share Posted September 19, 2013 A 67 senate is too big for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller foxriverat Posted September 20, 2013 Author Baller Share Posted September 20, 2013 And the 65 seems to small. That's why I was wondering about the 66 syndicate s1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller tjm Posted September 20, 2013 Baller Share Posted September 20, 2013 Ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller tjm Posted September 20, 2013 Baller Share Posted September 20, 2013 Try them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller foxriverat Posted September 20, 2013 Author Baller Share Posted September 20, 2013 Sure would be nice to demo them. Any suggestions around here to do that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Chef23 Posted September 20, 2013 Baller Share Posted September 20, 2013 @foxriverat look for an S2 it was a better ski than the S1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller foxriverat Posted September 20, 2013 Author Baller Share Posted September 20, 2013 Thanks Mark. Did find many reviews on the s2 that were good. Not many on the s1. That's why I asked. Through all of my research. Which I do a lot of before I ask a question. The consensus on a 34 mph ski seems to be the senate c. The only thing concerning me is the size issue. Seems every maker of 34 mph skis that only come in 65 67 and 69 recommend a 67 for me on there sizing charts. 5.7 165 lbs 34 mph. I have been told the 67 is too long for me. My original question asked at my level what are the pros and cons of 65 67 senate c or 66 34 mph ski. To help me progress and or grow into. Money is also a big factor for me. As I don't have a lot of extra pennies to spend. That is why I am looking at the end of the year where I am finding some great deals. Just need help deciding on size. I just found a 2013 new 65 senate c badly blemished for $299 shipped. If I knew for sure the 65 was right for me. I would buy it right now. Thanks for any advice you can give. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Chef23 Posted September 20, 2013 Baller Share Posted September 20, 2013 I think the S2 would cary you further than a Senate but that is just my opinion. The S2 is designed as HOs 34 mph ski and it comes in 65.5 and 66.5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller andjules Posted September 21, 2013 Baller Share Posted September 21, 2013 @foxriverat it depends a little what you're working on, but I personally don't think 67" is too long for you. At -35 off maybe. At -15off I think the issues are usually about getting enough pull/leverage, not about getting a tight-enough turn, so in my mind, long is better than erring on the short side at this stage. Moreover, as you start progressing into shortline, it's often good to drop the boat speed to 32mph to practice a new length, so again, longer is better than too short. For what it's worth - and I think I mentioned this on your other thread last month - but I'm about 10+ lbs heavier than you, was on a 66" KD7000, was on the edge of buying a Senate C, then grabbed a 66.5" S2. It wasn't love-at-first-ski, but within 3-5 sets we started to get along, it's done well by me, I'm up 6.5 balls on my PB this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller foxriverat Posted September 21, 2013 Author Baller Share Posted September 21, 2013 Thanks again andjules. that really helps. I have also read here. That its easier to make a long ski to ski shorter than a short ski to ski longer by adjusting the fin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller foxriverat Posted October 7, 2013 Author Baller Share Posted October 7, 2013 Well I wanted the c but ended up with a regular 67 senate. Couldn't pass up the deal. And should be fine for the level Im at. New 2013 double vector bindings $375 shipped. The radar web sites not running. Want to check the skis stock settings when it comes in this week. Do these sound right. 29.25 0.86 6.845 2.49 8 head Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller cragginshred Posted October 7, 2013 Baller Share Posted October 7, 2013 http://www.ski-it-again.com/php/skiitagain.php?topic=Search&category=Slalom&postid=25612 This link is my ski I am selling, i sent you a pm with my e-mail in case you are interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller foxriverat Posted October 8, 2013 Author Baller Share Posted October 8, 2013 I saw yours on ski it again. If it was a 67. I would have bought it. Thank you though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller foxriverat Posted October 8, 2013 Author Baller Share Posted October 8, 2013 I sent you an email when I got your original pm. Must have went in your spam folder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller cragginshred Posted October 8, 2013 Baller Share Posted October 8, 2013 No prob! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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