Baller_ MISkier Posted July 9, 2014 Baller_ Share Posted July 9, 2014 Does anyone know how to contact Thomas Wayne to purchase an Arm Guard for a handle? I bought one a few years ago and like it. Have replaced my handle and need a new one. I tried the email I had before, but no response. Any info would be appreciated. The worst slalom equipment I own is between my ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kstateskier Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Call Brenda @ In Tow - she makes handles with a "guard bar" built in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Steven_Haines Posted July 9, 2014 Baller Share Posted July 9, 2014 Try Fluid Motion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToddF Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Or go to Lowes buy a two foot strip of their sun shade material cut to fit and zip tie it. Viola you have a lifetime supply of head guards for life for about 5 dollars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skihart Posted July 9, 2014 Baller Share Posted July 9, 2014 @ToddF What sunshade material exactly? Have to go to Lowes this afternoon anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Bruce_Butterfield Posted July 9, 2014 Baller_ Share Posted July 9, 2014 I use the "pet resistant" window screen from lowes or Home Depot. Pretty tough and easy to work with. If it was easy, they would call it Wakeboarding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ DW Posted July 9, 2014 Baller_ Share Posted July 9, 2014 I use the mesh material from a dive bag, gym bag or similar, zip ties & either bar or rope to form the third leg of the triangle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToddF Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 @skihart I think they call it easy gardner, it is usually in the garden area. you can buy it by the foot I bought a 6x2 for four dollars. The one I made has lasted two seasons without signs of going away anytime soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck_Dickey Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 @MISkier twcues@gci.net ArmGuard Thomas Wayne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ MISkier Posted July 9, 2014 Author Baller_ Share Posted July 9, 2014 Thanks to all for the suggestions. I'll look into those, if I am not successful with acquiring an Arm Guard. @Chuck_Dickey, that is the email I used. It didn't bounce back or give an error. My email must be going to his junk mail or he is otherwise occupied. Thanks for confirming the address. The worst slalom equipment I own is between my ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Texas6 Posted July 9, 2014 Baller Share Posted July 9, 2014 Let me caution you on zip ties however. For me, they would snap on every set and need to be replaced Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ski6jones Posted July 9, 2014 Baller Share Posted July 9, 2014 @Texas6 I made one and tied it on with shock cord. In fact the shock cord I used was from a pair of old RS1 bindings. Worked great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Steven_Haines Posted July 9, 2014 Baller Share Posted July 9, 2014 how about a Bruce Noose Eliminator? oops I forgot... the mighty Thomas Wayne Crushed The Competition yet continues to keep his product virtually unavailable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ MISkier Posted July 10, 2014 Author Baller_ Share Posted July 10, 2014 I got a reply from Thomas Wayne and ordered. He had been temporarily unavailable and hadn't remembered to put an auto-reply on his email account. Regarding the comment on zip ties, I believe he uses a special type of zip tie that has the strength and durability characteristics necessary for this application. I know that my current Arm Guard is 2 or 3 years old and none of the zip ties have given way. The worst slalom equipment I own is between my ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck_Dickey Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 @Texas6 when installing the zip ties, attach your handle to something sturdy so you can apply tension. While under tension, tighten the zip ties. This way when you load the rope while skiing the zip ties will not pop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller SkiJay Posted July 10, 2014 Baller Share Posted July 10, 2014 @MISkier I've bought a half dozen Arm-Guards from TW over the past three years, and it's been a freak'n adventure every single time. I have a used one with the good new zip-ties for a 13" radiused Masterline handle (not included) if anyone is interested at $35 incl. shipping. PM me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller mac Posted July 13, 2014 Baller Share Posted July 13, 2014 @Bruce_Butterfield, what did you use to attach the pet screen to your handle? Any pics? tks, mac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ MISkier Posted July 12, 2015 Author Baller_ Share Posted July 12, 2015 Well, more than a year has passed since my order for an Arm Guard last July and I don't have it despite multiple attempts to contact TW directly as well as asking some other ballers here to contact him. Last week I filed a dispute with PayPal, which was subsequently closed since it was older than 45 days. So, I am not likely to get a refund, either. Something must have happened to him or he no longer makes them or I am not an elite enough skier to make the list of recipients. Not sure what I will do for a handle guard now, as my current one is cracking and just about shot. @SkiJay, if that old handle guard of yours is still available, I'd like to talk measurements to see if it might work for me. The worst slalom equipment I own is between my ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted July 12, 2015 Administrators Share Posted July 12, 2015 ridiculous Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller baja Posted July 12, 2015 Baller Share Posted July 12, 2015 Best alternative is to begin producing and selling a similar product and provide any level of customer service. You won't make any money but you might hear from the attorney for he who must not be named. You will be told to cease infringing on his client's valuable patent. At that point you may be able to deliver a small claims court summons to attempt to recover your money. I wouldn't bother though since life is too short to waste time on stuff like this and there have been several DIY ideas shared on this forum that work well enough and don't come with the brain damage. Wasting time on a sunday until beer thirty. whoops i've got to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted July 12, 2015 Administrators Share Posted July 12, 2015 @baja it has gotten to the point where if you can not purchase one of these things because of TW and then you get hurt => TW should be libel Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Steven_Haines Posted July 12, 2015 Baller Share Posted July 12, 2015 Has anyone looked into the FM arm guard? He'll actually sell/send you one! TW is doing everyone a dis service Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller gregy Posted July 13, 2015 Baller Share Posted July 13, 2015 @MISkier you might try contacting the local police in his area. I had situation were a guy basically stole money from me. I called the police in that area and they recoveed most of the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ToddL Posted July 13, 2015 Baller Share Posted July 13, 2015 Just for reference: TW Patent: http://www.google.com.mx/patents/US7959481 In searching for the above link, I found this other patent by Gordon Rathbun: http://www.google.com.mx/patents/US8808046 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted July 13, 2015 Administrators Share Posted July 13, 2015 All the trouble to get a patent and basically refuses to sell it ( or easy to buy) Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Marco Posted July 13, 2015 Baller Share Posted July 13, 2015 FWIW- I have one of the few noose eliminators made by @Brewski which I received when he first started making them. I didn't put it on my handle until this year, but it is awesome. I would have kept buying arm guards from Thomas if he made them easily available, bu since they aren't, I'm looking for other alternatives. Too bad, because the noose eliminator is a quality product. Bottom line, don't ski without handle protection! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ MISkier Posted July 13, 2015 Author Baller_ Share Posted July 13, 2015 I may try to duplicate the existing one I have. After all, I did pay for an order and can prove it. I believe I am owed an Arm Guard or a refund. The worst slalom equipment I own is between my ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ToddL Posted July 13, 2015 Baller Share Posted July 13, 2015 I wonder if someone were to sell decorative triangle aerated synthetic leather ferret cage corner hammock kits maybe skiers would become ferret enthusiasts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ToddL Posted July 13, 2015 Baller Share Posted July 13, 2015 FWIW, US Patents filed after 1995 have a 20 year term before expiration, unless the patent holder fails to pay the maintenance fees to keep the patent active. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ToddL Posted July 13, 2015 Baller Share Posted July 13, 2015 Patent Maintenance Fees07/13/2015 12:04 AM EDTPatent Number:7959481Application Number:12387908Issue Date:06/14/2011Filing Date:05/07/2009Window Opens:06/14/2014Surcharge Date:12/16/2014Window Closes:06/15/2015Payment Year:Entity Status:SMALLCustomer Number:Address:Thomas Wayne Suite 1806 3705 Arctic Blvd. Anchorage AK 99503 Phone Number:(907) 349-3743Currently there are no fees due. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller rodltg2 Posted July 13, 2015 Baller Share Posted July 13, 2015 3705 Arctic blvd ?that sounds chilly. How long is his season ? 2 weeks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller LeonL Posted July 13, 2015 Baller Share Posted July 13, 2015 Just make your own. It ain't rocket surgery! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Brewski Posted July 13, 2015 Baller Share Posted July 13, 2015 Grab your wifes worst bikini cut a triangle out of any part of it, knock some holes in it with a hammer and puch and viola the next best thing..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Chef23 Posted July 13, 2015 Baller Share Posted July 13, 2015 It looks like fees were recently due on TW's patent. If he doesn't pay does the patent expire then anyone can make Arm Guards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cayman2 Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 Anyone can make them now. You just can't sell them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Jim Neely Posted July 14, 2015 Baller Share Posted July 14, 2015 Order a piece of this and make 8 of them for $5.26 http://www.grainger.com/product/22JL63?cm_mmc=EMT-_-OpenOrder-_-WillCall-_-SKU&RIID=131706586&GID=&mid=OpenOrders_WillCall Works great. Very strong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ MISkier Posted July 14, 2015 Author Baller_ Share Posted July 14, 2015 @Jim Neely Do you have a picture of a handle guard made from that Grainger poly? It says it is 5/8" thick. That seems quite thick and possibly heavy. I think the Lexan on the Arm Guard is 3/16" or less. The worst slalom equipment I own is between my ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller slvrbulit Posted July 14, 2015 Baller Share Posted July 14, 2015 I bought my arm guard from Fluid motion. http://fluid-motion-sports-2.myshopify.com/search?q=handle+guards&submit= Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Jim Neely Posted July 14, 2015 Baller Share Posted July 14, 2015 @MISkier its 0.0625 thick, 1/16". The heading is right the tech specs are wrong. I'll try to remember to take some pictures today. I've made about 5 of them and given away material for another 4 or 5. I have yet to have a hole pull through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Jim Neely Posted July 15, 2015 Baller Share Posted July 15, 2015 Trying to post a picture but can't get it to work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Jim Neely Posted July 15, 2015 Baller Share Posted July 15, 2015 file:///C:/MSOffice%20Data/Pictures/handle%20guard.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted July 15, 2015 Administrators Share Posted July 15, 2015 http://media.tumblr.com/fe497dd337d9af8479bb6398b9565d16/tumblr_inline_mg6n5ltl6X1rxe4lt.gif Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted July 15, 2015 Administrators Share Posted July 15, 2015 @Jim Neely email me the file horton@ballofspray.com Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Brewski Posted July 15, 2015 Baller Share Posted July 15, 2015 I can sell yardage of the high end synthetic leather @ $100-150.00 a yard depending on the style. A yard will make like 4 or more no noose style guards. You have to buy the shoe glue (BARGE), bungee cord or fishing cord (spectra), scissors and hole punch. Eyelets are not necessary but you can get a eyelet set at Hobby Lobby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller DaveD Posted July 15, 2015 Baller Share Posted July 15, 2015 @brewski, is there an advantage in using the synthetic leather over a nylon cloth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller LeonL Posted July 16, 2015 Baller Share Posted July 16, 2015 So the material alone would cost $25 -$37 each? Lots of other materials nearly free that work. A silicone kitchen sink liner from a kitchen gadget store for about $4 makes a nice one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted July 16, 2015 Administrators Share Posted July 16, 2015 @Jim Neely Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Jim Neely Posted July 16, 2015 Baller Share Posted July 16, 2015 Thanks John. Why was I not able to post the picture? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MattP Posted July 16, 2015 Baller Share Posted July 16, 2015 @Jim Neely It looks as though you copied the file off your machine and tried to paste it into the text box this will only return the address where the file is on your machine. Try using the add file feature by clicking the piece of paper in the text edit bar and either dragging the file there or searching for it. You Can also drag the file directly into the text box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Jim Neely Posted July 16, 2015 Baller Share Posted July 16, 2015 @MattP I tried all 3 of those with no luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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