Baller pgmoore Posted July 13, 2014 Baller Share Posted July 13, 2014 Following a crash that took me out a few weeks ago, I have had a lot of time to contemplate skiing topics that had never previously occurred to me. One such topic is binding and fin settings. I've had two and a half seasons on my 2012 Strada and have never put a moment's thought to the fin settings or binding placement. I simply picked it up from the dealer and went and skied. And frankly, that has worked out just fine. But now I'm curious to see where things are at and how close the settings are to stock. I'm not necessarily proposing to mess around with things as I'm no expert at ski set-up. I just want to know where I sit. What are your favourite calipers and wing angle gauges? I'm particularly interested in slot calipers (as opposed to traditional) as the measurements would seem to be much more repeatable. Any other tools I should be considering? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Wish Posted July 13, 2014 Baller_ Share Posted July 13, 2014 Pencil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller thager Posted July 13, 2014 Baller Share Posted July 13, 2014 Grinder and sandpaper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller pgmoore Posted July 13, 2014 Author Baller Share Posted July 13, 2014 Awesome! Thanks for the responses, guys! I was thinking more along the lines of do you have a favourite brand or model of calipers, etc. Same with the other gauges. Or maybe none are particularly better than the others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller thager Posted July 14, 2014 Baller Share Posted July 14, 2014 @pgmoore You asked! No favorite brand but I use an 8" affordable electronic caliper I bought online. I also made a slot caliper to measure DFT from an affordable 6" electronic caliper using a thin grinding wheel. You will want to get an 8" caliper to cover all the measurements. My angle gauges are from Booth Electrosystems Inc. and are metal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ToddL Posted July 14, 2014 Baller Share Posted July 14, 2014 EZ Fin Tool: http://vidkingdom.net/content/view/57/84/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ToddL Posted July 14, 2014 Baller Share Posted July 14, 2014 Custom Wing Angle Gauges. You can contact them and specify a custom set with the range of angles you want, or 2x the range you want. http://www.liquidcut.com/tools.aspx (scroll down to see the angle gauges) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller kreipe Posted July 14, 2014 Baller Share Posted July 14, 2014 I agree with @thager. You want an 8" model calipers. Amazon has some that won't break the bank - especially given that for most it's not a tool used daily. If you use a wing you'll need the angle gauges like @ToddL notes - although I've wondered if you could use the level app available for smart phones these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moggie Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 A magic 8-ball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller A_B Posted July 14, 2014 Baller Share Posted July 14, 2014 Goode Slot Caliper, if I was to buy a new caliper, because that seems to be the one a lot of specs are set with. 2 sets of angle gauges ( so you can use on both sides of the fin at same time) one is really necessary. I like the 2" block that a few folks sell so I don't have to take the wing off to measure fin depth. I have one that helps set DFT, that I bought from a Baller out here, but don't remember user ID. Paper and pencil to make notes and record measurements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skialex Posted July 14, 2014 Baller Share Posted July 14, 2014 Slot fin caliper if you are ridding a Goode or 8" Mytutoyo for every other ski, wing gauges from H2Osmossis that have halves or from Goode, these are the basics and then a workshop full of stuff, drills, benches, grinders, air compressor and a lot more! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Chef23 Posted July 14, 2014 Baller Share Posted July 14, 2014 I have a set of 8" Mituyos that I found at a flea market plus an adjustable angle gauge that Jamie B had designed but I don't know if anyone is making anymore. I keep a couple of Allen wrenches in the caliper case. I also use a 12" long section of 1" diameter dowel that I use to tap the fin to get small movements. It is also useful if you dual lock your bindings to pound it back in place. I have a tool bag I bring to tournaments with extra RTP rubber, a bag of screws, calipers, screw drivers, angle gauges, dowel, a rubber mallet, some dual lock (even though I don't use it) and duct tape. This seems to cover most of my needs. I am thinking of getting a back up RTP just for emergency purposes since both my son and I use them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller SkiJay Posted July 14, 2014 Baller Share Posted July 14, 2014 Slot calipers only if you share a lot if numbers among other Goode skiers. I don't find them any more repeatable than standard calipers on most skis. Mitutoyo is the most affordable high quality caliper. 8" is a must. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller A_B Posted July 14, 2014 Baller Share Posted July 14, 2014 Jay, I think more companies are using the slot caliper. Rossi uses one and so does Mapple. I bought a Mitutoyo calibrated caliper from SS a long time ago, but if I bought one now, I would probably get a slot. They are easier to get repeat measurements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E_T Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 Sledge hammer, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller A_B Posted July 14, 2014 Baller Share Posted July 14, 2014 That's the last resort! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Ham_Wallace Posted July 14, 2014 Baller Share Posted July 14, 2014 Rock and screwdriver! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ DW Posted July 14, 2014 Baller_ Share Posted July 14, 2014 Items listed above + tape measure for binding placement. Allens, screwdrivers, WD-40, pencil, small notepad. EZ fin tool not only for fin measurement but also for caliper calibration check. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Chef23 Posted July 15, 2014 Baller Share Posted July 15, 2014 I forgot about the tape measure that is a must have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller A_B Posted July 15, 2014 Baller Share Posted July 15, 2014 @DanE , how is a discussion of why one should look at buying a slot caliper off topic in a thread about what tools one should use? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted July 15, 2014 Administrators Share Posted July 15, 2014 Slot Caliper Mitutoyo caliper T-bar Allen key I stole from D3 Wing gauges also stolen from D3 Ski-Doc work station Ski-Doc traveler work station Phillips screw driver I stole from Fischer Microsoft OneNote for all settings - the little black book was cute but get serious Masking take for notes on the ski - when I use Dual Lock I leave tape on the ski as a mark of where the plate goes 2 bottles of Kilo Kai Metric and Imperial allen keys from Lowe.s 12 inch steel ruler @eleeski gave me (more uses than you would think) Hundreds of new stainless screws to replace any corroded screw on anyone's ski that shows up Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller DanE Posted July 15, 2014 Baller Share Posted July 15, 2014 @AB Took care of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skialex Posted July 15, 2014 Baller Share Posted July 15, 2014 @Horton I cary everything you have listed above in my tool box except the Kilo Kai and travel doc + 8-32 Tap. I do not know about the travel doc but I'm definitely adding Kilo Kai! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted July 15, 2014 Administrators Share Posted July 15, 2014 @skialex I also have an 8 32 tap. I find that if I use the Kilo Kai last I hardly ever need the tap Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller BobF Posted July 15, 2014 Baller Share Posted July 15, 2014 >Microsoft OneNote for all settings I've started using a Google doc for documenting setting info. Nice to be able to get to this from any device, even out on the lake! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Chef23 Posted July 15, 2014 Baller Share Posted July 15, 2014 I keep my setting information in my iphone in the notes. I probably should have it somewhere backed up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller slalom frog Posted July 17, 2014 Baller Share Posted July 17, 2014 I'm with @bf`, I use a Google Doc where I have been keeping all of my slalom measurements and history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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