Administrators Horton Posted August 10, 2015 Administrators Share Posted August 10, 2015 Last Saturday I received my 3rd Centurion in 2 years and I am extremely impressed. My first two boats were darn good but I think the 2016 is more refined. It is the little things that add up to a nicer boat. The things that the naysayers used to say about Centurion seem to all be gone. Some folks complained about a transition “clunk” noise on the 2015 and earlier boats. The transmission on the 2016 is as smooth and quiet as any boat I have ever driven. Personally I never thought the transmission “clunk” was a big deal but some folks found it objectionable. I do not know how but the 2016 Centurion is remarkably quiet. Maybe credit goes to PCM. The engine box seems extra heavy so maybe that is where the sound deadening is happening. I do not know what they did but it is pretty quiet even with the throttle wide open. I normally like a moderate amount of rudder load and find that any boat that does not have enough load feels vague and is hard to drive. My new boat has basically zero rudder load but the steering is feels very tactile. I have no plans to mess with the rudder. I have not yet driven anything past 32 off / 34mph yet but somehow this boat is just easy to drive. My friends Mark and Carla came over to ski. Carla drove for Mark for a bunch of 32s and told me she wanted the boat after she drove it. Is it pretty? Are you kidding me? The interior is killer and you have to see the black gelcoat with silver metal flake in person. The bad news – The 2016 is likely to be the last year you can get a 5.7 engine in a Centurion. I believe the other 3 brands will move away from the 5.7 in 2016. In 2017 Centurion will have the 5.3 and a 6.2. These engines are going to drive up the price on all boats by about $5k (or more). So if you are looking to get a Centurion before the price goes higher you have about 12 months to get it done. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Become a Supporting Member Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
303Skier Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 Pics? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted August 10, 2015 Author Administrators Share Posted August 10, 2015 @303Skier http://forum.ballofspray.com/discussion/13812/2016-ballofspray-centurion-unwrapping-a-silent-movie Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Become a Supporting Member Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
303Skier Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 Ah, thanks! Looks beautiful. What do Carbon pros run new (price)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted August 10, 2015 Author Administrators Share Posted August 10, 2015 @303Skier boat prices always seem hard to exactly pin down. .. options options.. Generally the Carbon Pro is 10K less than a similarly optioned new boat from the other major brands Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Become a Supporting Member Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
303Skier Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 Right on! I heard Correct Craft acquired them...Do you know anything about that? Their plans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I5boi Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 @Horton do you have/like the revised flooring? Pictures make it look like it will wear better over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Dacon62 Posted October 17, 2015 Baller Share Posted October 17, 2015 Intersting that rudder torque can be minimal and the boat still drive well. I find that to be the case for our boat as well. Counterintuitive but it just is that way. Nice to get a boat that just "works" from the factory without having to tweak it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted October 17, 2015 Author Administrators Share Posted October 17, 2015 @I5boi my boat is 2016 boat #1. It has last year's floor that I very much like. I have heard that there is new stuff in the later boats. IDK Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Become a Supporting Member Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller RAWSki Posted October 17, 2015 Baller Share Posted October 17, 2015 What is the 'new floor', a different manufacturer or material? I definitely like the 'teak stripes' compared to the original solid material in the first year boats. @Horton, I have been told that the 409hp 6.0L will be available for at least more years which really makes for a peppy boat. It will be interesting to see how the 5.3DI performs.... Less weight more HP seems like a good combination! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted October 17, 2015 Author Administrators Share Posted October 17, 2015 I believe (do not quote me) the floor is SeaDeck or Gator Step. Same as other non-carpet options in other boats Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Become a Supporting Member Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kfennell Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 It would be nice if it was possible to reasonably retrofit the new floor into the older boats, I asked for a price from the local dealer and they wanted $2900 I think it was... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I5boi Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Any changes for 16 besides the floor, finish and rudder? There is no clunck in our 15. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted October 20, 2015 Author Administrators Share Posted October 20, 2015 @kfennell both SeaDeck and GatorStep sell replacement floor pads Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Become a Supporting Member Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller dbutcher Posted October 20, 2015 Baller Share Posted October 20, 2015 @15boi does your 2015 have a ZF transmission or PCM? Every boat with a ZF transmission I've ever driven has the clunk. There's nothing wrong. That's just the way ZF transmissions are (or at least used to be). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I5boi Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 @dbutcher. I have no idea. I guess I'd have to go find the build sheet? I'll work on that for future data... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller dbutcher Posted October 20, 2015 Baller Share Posted October 20, 2015 You can probably tell by looking at the transmission. I think both ZF and PCM put their respective names on the case somewhere. ZF's usually have a filter that I haven't seen on a PCM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I5boi Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 @dbutcher we have the ZF made in Italy. Maybe ours was made in the morning before their afternoon nap? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ToddL Posted October 21, 2015 Baller Share Posted October 21, 2015 @kfennell You are already half way to funding that new floor covering... #BOSCashPrize Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Chuck_Dickey Posted October 25, 2015 Baller Share Posted October 25, 2015 I think PCM's are built by ZF. PCM had the exclusive on ZF's quiet shift design. Now the boat builders are moving to electric shift by ZF to lose the clunk. Correct me if I'm wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I5boi Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 When did the flooring change happen? Was it done for better comfort or long term performance? Does anyone have experience with the old style and new that can provide a review? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted November 4, 2015 Author Administrators Share Posted November 4, 2015 @I5boi not sure. I have Zero complaints about the flooring in my first 3 boats. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Become a Supporting Member Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ RichardDoane Posted November 19, 2015 Baller_ Share Posted November 19, 2015 I haven't skied behind any 2016 CP's yet, but the 2015 6.0 that now lives at the Broho is sure a sweet ride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller robscholl-OF Posted November 19, 2015 Baller Share Posted November 19, 2015 The boats on our lifts at the BroHo are a 2014 5.7 and 2015 6.0. Pound for pound, dollar for dollar the best bang for your buck if you are looking for solid slalom tug. I make this comment as a Regular rated driver who has driven as well as skied behind a 2015 CC open/closed bow, 2014 MC and 2015 Malibu in numerous tournaments. As you can see I base this on driving and skiing behind all the boats. I am not saying CP is any better than any of the other boats, just for that for your money, IMO you cannot do better. OF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller bdougherty Posted November 19, 2015 Baller Share Posted November 19, 2015 @richarddoane What brand of lift/canopy are those beautiful boats sitting on? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller robscholl-OF Posted November 19, 2015 Baller Share Posted November 19, 2015 Bausta boat lifts. OF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ RichardDoane Posted November 19, 2015 Baller_ Share Posted November 19, 2015 http://www.bastaboatlifts.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller bdougherty Posted November 19, 2015 Baller Share Posted November 19, 2015 Thanks!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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